Mock (2/18/13)

Direckshun · 07:08 PM

Assumptions:

1. The Chiefs resign Bowe and Colquitt, tag Albert, and let Dorsey walk.

2. Quinn and Hillis are out. Jackson stays but at reduced salary a three-year deal.

3. Cassel is handed his walking papers, and the team trades its to the Eagles for Nick Foles (playing around with some of the rumors).

3. The Chiefs land DE/DT Chris Canty and ILB Brad Jones in free agency.

4. They get two compensatory picks, an extra third (Carr) and a 6th (Richardson).

On with the show:

1. QB Geno Smith, West Virginia

Considering that I've retained Branden Albert and brought in Canty, there's really nowhere else here to go but with Smith.

2. CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon State

Not the towering guy the Chiefs could really use at the positioin (5'11"), but the Eagles need a Day One starter at the corner position, and Poyer's a really versatile, smart corner. I read that he exploded onto the scene a year ago at Oregon State -- he has a high learning curve and excellent speed.

3. NT Kwame Geathers, Georgia

I figure: let's get ahead of the Dontari Poe problem. Poe can clearly get after it, but he has yet to prove he can clog lanes effectively. While we do have Jerrell Powe, I never like the odds of lower-round guys during a schematic transition. At the very least, when the Chiefs decide to put four on the DL, they've got a deep rotation of beef.

4. RB Mike Gillislee, Florida

BPA. Looking at my big board, Gillislee about fits at this spot (where a need still exists). I think the Chiefs need a versatile runner to compliment Charles, not necessarily just a plodder. Gillislee isn't that much bigger than Charles but he has superb speed and actually runs with force.

5. OG Hugh Thornton, Illinois

BPA. I like Thornton a lot as a raw athlete. Like Jeff Allen, Thornton will need some work, but I love his athleticism for our system. I think he could legitimately run a 5.0 40.

6. QB Matt Scott, Arizona

BPA. Andy Reid has proven he likes QBs from Arizona. Scott's more of an athletic wonder and would allow the team to move on from the Ricky Stanzi experiment.

6. ILB Sio Moore, Connecticut

I really love the talent here in Moore. I think he's got really solid athletic ability and can really do everything you ask an athletic DJ-type to do. He can rack up damage at the line of scrimmage, sure, but he's especially talented in coverage. Finally giving the Chiefs a semblence of depth here.

7. WR Denard Robinson, Michigan

This is a fun, experimental draft pick, since Andy Reid is not immune to these. Robinson is a mobile QB who is making the move to WR.

Direckshun · 02-18-2013, 07:07 PM

QB: Smith vs. Foles, Scott
RB: Charles, Gillislee, Gray, Droughn
FB: DiMarco

WR: Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Wylie, Robinson
TE: Moeaki, Boss, Maneri

LT: Albert, Stephenson
LG: Allen, Thornton
C: Hudson, Patterson
RG: Asamoah, Thornton
RT: Winston, Stephenson

DE: Canty, Long
NT: Poe, Geathers, Powe
DE: Jackson, Poe

OLB: Hali, Jones
ILB: Jones, Siler
ILB: Johnson, Moore
OLB: Houston, Studebaker

CB: Flowers, Poyer, Arenas, Daniels, Brown
S: Berry, Abdullah, Lewis, Hartman

K: Succop
P: Colquitt
LS: Gafford

O.city · 02-18-2013, 07:08 PM

Would like to get a better CB at 2, but overall, I like it.

Direckshun · 02-18-2013, 07:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by O.city

Would like to get a better CB at 2, but overall, I like it.

Everybody mocks somebody like Amerson there (I really like Amerson), but I really like Poyer. He has the look of a guy who is going to be one of the best rookie CBs by the end of his rookie year.

O.city · 02-18-2013, 07:18 PM

I know you brought in a free agent ILB, but I would love to have Minter there in the second and keep our 3rd rounder as I don't think Foles is a legit option.

Sorter · 02-18-2013, 07:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Direckshun

Everybody mocks somebody like Amerson there (I really like Amerson), but I really like Poyer. He has the look of a guy who is going to be one of the best rookie CBs by the end of his rookie year.

Poyer is a solid player.

**RealSNR** · 02-18-2013, 07:31 PM

I like all the picks except the Kwame Geathers one. Dude is softer than Charmin and fatter than Bill Williamson

spanky 52 · 02-19-2013, 10:16 AM

I like the idea of Canty and Jones in FA. What about Trufant in the 2nd? Or does everyone think he'll be gone?

**RealSNR** · 02-19-2013, 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by spanky 52

I like the idea of Canty and Jones in FA. What about Trufant in the 2nd? Or does everyone think he'll be gone?

Trufant is overrated. I'd rather have Poyer if Amerson and Rhodes are gone.

Frosty · 02-19-2013, 10:28 AM

Yes to Poyer. No to overrated Huskies trash.

**the Talking Can** · 02-19-2013, 10:32 AM

not a fan of geathers, but hard to complain about him in the 3rd....pretty sure someone will reach for him though

i think we need a dynamic back as well, so no problem there...

there won't be (better not be) a QB competition if you spend the #1 pick on a QB...

**RealSNR** · 02-19-2013, 11:24 AM

I wonder what we would do if we drafted Thornton. That's three Illinois players playing guard on the same team

chiefsfan_91 · 02-20-2013, 12:30 AM

Question. Why would you STILL draft QB at 1.1 if you are bringing in Foles? You make a move like that under the assumption that he can and will start from day 1. The logic behind that pick is astounding. I'd rather see a Dee Miliner pick there if we're bringing in Foles. It makes more sense schematically, and we can still pick up an insurance policy at 2.2 or 3.1

KCrockaholic · 02-20-2013, 01:26 AM

Trufant IS overrated. We'd end up regretting it if we took him in the 2nd. He's a fine 3rd round guy though. But at the top of the 2nd if we can get Rhodes or Amerson I'll be happy with that.

Direckshun · 02-20-2013, 09:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chiefsfan_91

Question. Why would you STILL draft QB at 1.1 if you are bringing in Foles? You make a move like that under the assumption that he can and will start from day 1. The logic behind that pick is astounding. I'd rather see a Dee Miliner pick there if we're bringing in Foles. It makes more sense schematically, and we can still pick up an insurance policy at 2.2 or 3.1

I'm making the draft pick at 1.1 that benefits the team the most.

I'm not taking Joekel (sp) if I've resigned Albert. The other options for me at that point are defensive line (which I've stacked with Jackson-Poe-Canty) or passrusher.

I think solidifying the QB position at that point is the best thing the Chiefs can do.

02-18-2013, 07:02 PM
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	Mock (2/18/13) Assumptions: 1. The Chiefs resign Bowe and Colquitt, tag Albert, and let Dorsey walk. 2. Quinn and Hillis are out. Jackson stays but at reduced salary a three-year deal. 3. Cassel is handed his walking papers, and the team trades its to the Eagles for Nick Foles (playing around with some of the rumors). 3. The Chiefs land DE/DT Chris Canty and ILB Brad Jones in free agency. 4. They get two compensatory picks, an extra third (Carr) and a 6th (Richardson). On with the show: 1. QB Geno Smith, West Virginia Considering that I've retained Branden Albert and brought in Canty, there's really nowhere else here to go but with Smith. 2. CB Jordan Poyer, Oregon State Not the towering guy the Chiefs could really use at the positioin (5'11"), but the Eagles need a Day One starter at the corner position, and Poyer's a really versatile, smart corner. I read that he exploded onto the scene a year ago at Oregon State -- he has a high learning curve and excellent speed. 3. NT Kwame Geathers, Georgia I figure: let's get ahead of the Dontari Poe problem. Poe can clearly get after it, but he has yet to prove he can clog lanes effectively. While we do have Jerrell Powe, I never like the odds of lower-round guys during a schematic transition. At the very least, when the Chiefs decide to put four on the DL, they've got a deep rotation of beef. 4. RB Mike Gillislee, Florida BPA. Looking at my big board, Gillislee about fits at this spot (where a need still exists). I think the Chiefs need a versatile runner to compliment Charles, not necessarily just a plodder. Gillislee isn't that much bigger than Charles but he has superb speed and actually runs with force. 5. OG Hugh Thornton, Illinois BPA. I like Thornton a lot as a raw athlete. Like Jeff Allen, Thornton will need some work, but I love his athleticism for our system. I think he could legitimately run a 5.0 40. 6. QB Matt Scott, Arizona BPA. Andy Reid has proven he likes QBs from Arizona. Scott's more of an athletic wonder and would allow the team to move on from the Ricky Stanzi experiment. 6. ILB Sio Moore, Connecticut I really love the talent here in Moore. I think he's got really solid athletic ability and can really do everything you ask an athletic DJ-type to do. He can rack up damage at the line of scrimmage, sure, but he's especially talented in coverage. Finally giving the Chiefs a semblence of depth here. 7. WR Denard Robinson, Michigan This is a fun, experimental draft pick, since Andy Reid is not immune to these. Robinson is a mobile QB who is making the move to WR. Last edited by Direckshun; 02-18-2013 at 07:08 PM..
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02-18-2013, 07:07 PM	#2
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2033447	QB: Smith vs. Foles, Scott RB: Charles, Gillislee, Gray, Droughn FB: DiMarco WR: Bowe, Baldwin, Breaston, McCluster, Wylie, Robinson TE: Moeaki, Boss, Maneri LT: Albert, Stephenson LG: Allen, Thornton C: Hudson, Patterson RG: Asamoah, Thornton RT: Winston, Stephenson DE: Canty, Long NT: Poe, Geathers, Powe DE: Jackson, Poe OLB: Hali, Jones ILB: Jones, Siler ILB: Johnson, Moore OLB: Houston, Studebaker CB: Flowers, Poyer, Arenas, Daniels, Brown S: Berry, Abdullah, Lewis, Hartman K: Succop P: Colquitt LS: Gafford
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02-18-2013, 07:08 PM	#3
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02-18-2013, 07:18 PM	#5
O.city In Search of a Life Join Date: Jul 2009 Casino cash: $-685936	I know you brought in a free agent ILB, but I would love to have Minter there in the second and keep our 3rd rounder as I don't think Foles is a legit option.
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02-19-2013, 10:16 AM	#8
spanky 52 Veteran Join Date: Mar 2008 Casino cash: $-914399	I like the idea of Canty and Jones in FA. What about Trufant in the 2nd? Or does everyone think he'll be gone?
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02-19-2013, 10:32 AM	#11
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RealSNR Special Teams ACE!!! Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Where the hell is SNR Casino cash: $-1484792	I wonder what we would do if we drafted Thornton. That's three Illinois players playing guard on the same team
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02-20-2013, 12:30 AM	#13
chiefsfan_91 Rookie Join Date: Feb 2013 Casino cash: $10004900	Question. Why would you STILL draft QB at 1.1 if you are bringing in Foles? You make a move like that under the assumption that he can and will start from day 1. The logic behind that pick is astounding. I'd rather see a Dee Miliner pick there if we're bringing in Foles. It makes more sense schematically, and we can still pick up an insurance policy at 2.2 or 3.1
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02-20-2013, 01:26 AM	#14
KCrockaholic Sarcasm Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Olathe Casino cash: $3362900	Trufant IS overrated. We'd end up regretting it if we took him in the 2nd. He's a fine 3rd round guy though. But at the top of the 2nd if we can get Rhodes or Amerson I'll be happy with that.
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