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Truth and Lies About the Value of An Offensive Lineman
This pretty much echoes what I think. I know some will laugh at the BR source, but the author, Ryan Riddle, was a former Defensive End in the NFL.
There's some charts that don't show up well when I paste it in. Source NOTE: This was written before the 2012 season. Quote:
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04-18-2013, 04:34 PM | #2 |
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Elite OL talent can be found anywhere in the draft, but left tackles generally need to be drafted in the first.
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04-18-2013, 04:36 PM | #3 |
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Also: Two of the 10 worst offensive lines in the league happened to play each other for the NFC Championship Game.
Total bullshit. The 49ers offensive line is one of the league's best. |
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04-18-2013, 04:41 PM | #4 |
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I'm just going to post my thoughts.
Quality line play is essential. You can obtain quality line play through both elite and average players. Having a competent QB and/or offensive philosophy/scheme can mask deficiencies on your OL. From a personal standpoint, I tend to undervalue OL players (meaning, if I had draft selection power, I'd be pretty hesitant (typically) to draft any OL in the 1st round. For me to personally spend a first on a tackle, I'd probably need to be set at QB. To me, you can plug in 2nd or later round picks and maintain effective levels of production. However, that's dependent on a variety of other factors, so it could change depending on the personnel and philosophies. |
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Menelik Watson is going first, now. DJ Fluker's almost certainly off the board in the 1st. The truth is, if you have a stud QB, a future Hall of Famer, you can make do with just about anything. But there are like five future HOFer QBs in this league. That's it. The vast majority of the league has to function by the idea that left tackles need to be taken higher and need to be really good prospects. Your post works if you've got Brees under center. For everybody else, you've got to take a 1st rounder at LT when you can. Or pray you hit on one later, and I don't think I need to go over how difficult that is. |
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04-18-2013, 04:49 PM | #6 |
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That's why I said it would change depending on personnel.
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QB will make or break any line. Look at the Patriots in the years Brady started and the one year Cassel played. See the difference?
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The problem I'm having is with how you phrased it.
HOF QBs are the exception, and teams with them have a different set of rules for how you construct a roster. You need to have a different philosophy for the vast majority of teams that do not have a HOF QB. Edit: Christ, Kaepernick has three different 1st rounders and a 2nd rounder protecting him. I doubt you'd argue they are a poorly constructed roster. |
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04-18-2013, 05:08 PM | #9 |
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No, I wouldn't.
As an example, I don't think Dalton is a franchise QB. I do believe that due to fronts and most teams having competent rushers from the 7tech, RTs are nearly as important as LTs. However, I still wouldn't spend the Bengals 1st on a tackle. Just from briefly looking at their roster, I'd be inclined to take Vaccaro if possible. |
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04-18-2013, 05:12 PM | #10 |
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If you have Eli Manning or Aaron Rodgers as your QB, you can get by with average line play. If Cassel or A Smith is your QB you have to have superior line play.
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I see the phrase that's probably tripping you up.
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Again, it would really depend on the personnel both that I have and what's available, as well as offensive scheme. For example, f I were a GM and had Martz as a playcaller, then yes, I'd definitely be more inclined to draft tackle or move up to get an elite one. Tackles would definitely move up my draft board as far as positional importance. Additionally, I thought the Matt Kalil pick was solid, to provide an example of a LT drafted high for a Qb that I'm not exactly sure on. |
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EDIT: Just realized this article was written before the 2012 season.
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