Life Michigan police department to apologize for doubting 2004 Larry Nassar accuser

Pitt Gorilla · 01-31-2018, 04:28 PM

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news...ccuser-n843126

Brianne Randall-Gay was 17 years old when she went to see Michigan State University sports medicine doctor Larry Nassar for back pain over a decade ago.

Her next stop was the Meridian Township Police Department, to report that Nassar, who was also the team physician for USA Gymnastics, sexually abused her during the appointment.

"You had audacity to tell (police) I misunderstood the treatment because I was not comfortable with my body," Randall-Gay told Nassar last week during his sentencing hearing in Ingham County Court.

"Sadly, they took your word instead of mine."

Meridian police have confirmed they did not refer Randall-Gay's complaint to prosecutors. She got no justice — but 13 years later, she's getting an apology.

The police department announced Tuesday that it will hold a press conference Thursday where Chief David Hall "will issue a public statement and apology on the handling of the 2004 police report." New initiatives and training for sex-crimes investigations will also be announced, the department said.

Related: Eight times Larry Nassar could have been stopped

It's the latest development in a week's worth of upheaval triggered by Nassar's sentencing hearing and the 156 accusers who gave testimony in court. Another hearing will start Wednesday morning.

Among the fallout:

USA Gymnastics cut ties with the Karolyi Ranch, where some gymnasts say they were abused.

Michigan State University's president and athletic director resigned.

USA Gymnastics' top three board members stepped aside and the organization agreed to remove the rest of the board.

The U.S. Olympic Committee called for an independent third-party investigation.
Michigan's attorney general appointed a special counsel to investigate MSU's handling of allegations against Nassar.

The Texas Rangers were ordered to investigate the Karolyi Ranch, where U.S. gymnasts have trained for decades.

Both MSU and USA Gymnastics have been accused of mishandling reports of Nassar's abuse stretching back to 1997, although both institutions have denied it.

Randall-Gay's complaint is one of at least eight times that, according to his victims, Nassar could have been stopped.

At last week's hearing, she said she reported the abuse "immediately" and even had a rape kit done. Police arranged a meeting between Nassar and her mother and father, who was dying of cancer.

Nassar told them he penetrated the teenager with his hand as part of a medical procedure -- a claim he repeated this month in a letter to the judge, even after he pleaded guilty to criminal sexual conduct charges."

Randall-Gay said she has suffered from anxiety since the incident. She initially sent a written statement to be read aloud at the hearing, but after listening to some other victims speak, she decided she wanted to appear in person.

Meridian Township paid for her to fly to Michigan from Seattle, and she confronted Nassar in the courtroom before he was sentenced to 40 to 175 years in prison.

"I am here to tell you I wasn't afraid of you then, and I'm sure as hell not afraid of you now," Randall-Gay said.

She urged institutions and authority figures to pay attention to children reporting abuse, saying Nassar was allowed to keep molesting "because nobody was listening."

BWillie · 01-31-2018, 04:56 PM

Unfortunately if it is word vs word, there shouldn't be anything anybody can do. Now when that is collaborated with witnesses, physical evidence and additional reports from others then it ads credence to the allegation.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-31-2018, 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

Unfortunately if it is word vs word, there shouldn't be anything anybody can do. Now when that is collaborated with witnesses, physical evidence and additional reports from others then it ads credence to the allegation.

I think it's good that they are apologizing; it's a good start. I'm not sure, though, why anyone would think she was lying. She had literally nothing to gain, aside from saving others from the same fate.

GloucesterChief · 01-31-2018, 05:47 PM

So is anybody getting fired or being held liable? No? Apology means nothing then.

BWillie · 01-31-2018, 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Pitt Gorilla

I think it's good that they are apologizing; it's a good start. I'm not sure, though, why anyone would think she was lying. She had literally nothing to gain, aside from saving others from the same fate.

If I was law enforcement, I would assume she was telling the truth, but keep close vigil as possible to this guy as I could. To borderline harassing him. That alone hopefully would make him think twice.

I've always been a strong supporter that if it is word vs word, without any other evidence, you shouldn't be able to put someone away. Clearly, if we are being results oriented after knowing all we know now that came out after, it would have helped everyone if they would have put him away. But it is a dangerous precedent to set, if you are accused of something with no evidence, that you automatically go to jail and get charged.

Pitt Gorilla · 01-31-2018, 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by BWillie

If I was law enforcement, I would assume she was telling the truth, but keep close vigil as possible to this guy as I could. To borderline harassing him. That alone hopefully would make him think twice.

I've always been a strong supporter that if it is word vs word, without any other evidence, you shouldn't be able to put someone away. Clearly, if we are being results oriented after knowing all we know now that came out after, it would have helped everyone if they would have put him away. But it is a dangerous precedent to set, if you are accused of something with no evidence, that you automatically go to jail and get charged.

I agree with that and like your thoughts on handling it. Clearly, that didn't come close to happening.

**TimeForWasp** · 01-31-2018, 10:39 PM

What ever happened to "Rape is fun"

Msmith · 02-01-2018, 09:32 AM

In the your-word against my-word thing, Larry Nassar figured that he could get away with a lot of abuse actions.

allen_kcCard · 02-01-2018, 11:53 AM

Shouldn't have been his word against her word, these are exactly why when hands go anywhere without tanned skin there should be a nurse in the room.

raybec 4 · 02-01-2018, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Msmith

In the your-word against my-word thing, Larry Nassar figured that he could get away with a lot of abuse actions.

He was right, just think about how long this took. Same story with the VA doctor in Leavenworth.

BWillie · 02-01-2018, 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by allen_kcCard

Shouldn't have been his word against her word, these are exactly why when hands go anywhere without tanned skin there should be a nurse in the room.

Throw anyone in jail if they are accused, though? You have to have collaborative evidence. If there are 5 people accusing him at that time, then much different story. I don't know if there was or not.

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