Chiefs forced to spend $20 million to meet new salary floor?

[FloridaMan88]

So it appears from most reports that the agreed upon 2011 salary cap will be $120 million with the salary floor constituting AT LEAST (and this could be increased) 90% of the salary cap (about $108 million)

Most reports had the Chiefs payroll last season near $90 million.

This means that the Chiefs will be forced to spend about $20 million just to meet the salary floor.

Clark's Chiefs will be FORCED to pursue an aggressive approach in free agency.

[ChiefsCountry]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

True. That kid from Notre Dame is going to be a beast.

Or Hightower from Bama or the crazy kat out of Arizona State.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Or Hightower from Bama or the crazy kat out of Arizona State.

Or that kid from Boston College who had like 150 tackles AS A FRESHMEN. Also Tank Carder but he's more than likely a 2nd round guy.

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by milkman

Watching Belcher year one to year two was like night and day.

The guy is just learning, and with another year, he easily could be turning into a beast.

I'm not opposed to upgrading the roster, everywhere, but to dismiss Belcher out of hand as a "turd" suggests strongly that you're a true dumbass.

Completely agree.

The fact that he's not a "standout" in spot play means squat.

The guy he's replacing was cut and considered a solid b/u at best...

[milkman]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

You suggested Drew Stanton was a good backup. I'd suggest you go easy on the name calling for a bit. Is great backup/special team player any better?

How about this.

You are not seeing what you should be seeing when watching Belcher.

Is he a standout right now, as we speak?

No.

Did he improve by leaps and bounds from his first season to his second?

Yes, absolutely?

Should we, given that improvement, dismiss him out of hand?

Absolutely not, because there's no evidence to suggest he's even touched his ceiling.

As for Drew Stanton, your bitching would make some sense if I was proposing we sign him to be the next starting QB for this team.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

You suggested Drew Stanton was a good backup. I'd suggest you go easy on the name calling for a bit. Is great backup/special team player any better?

Again billay makes no sense.

Stanton is a good BACKUP. Key word backup.

Hes also not a young guy from a small school that grew as the season went on last year.
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[Rausch]

Originally Posted by milkman

How about this.

You are not seeing what you should be seeing when watching Belcher.

Is he a standout right now, as we speak?

No.

Did he improve by leaps and bounds from his first season to his second?

Yes, absolutely?

Should we, given that improvement, dismiss him out of hand?

Absolutely not, because there's no evidence to suggest he's even touched his ceiling.

This.

Vrabel was cut from the Steelers due to their ****ing never-ending glut of talent at LB and landed with the Pats.

The Pats worked him out and saw he had range.

This is where I think Belcher fits in. He's the utility guy. He's not an expert pass rusher but he's a "fighter" and a "payer."

I'd love to see him more in an ILB role, but that's just me.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

Again billay makes no sense.

Stanton is a good BACKUP. Key word backup.

Hes also not a young guy from a small school that grew as the season went on last year.
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5 TD 9 INT with a 55% completion and not even being able to beat out Shaun Hill is a good backup?

You mean Belcher is a young guy?

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by milkman

How about this.

You are not seeing what you should be seeing when watching Belcher.

Is he a standout right now, as we speak?

No.

Did he improve by leaps and bounds from his first season to his second?

Yes, absolutely?

Should we, given that improvement, dismiss him out of hand?

Absolutely not, because there's no evidence to suggest he's even touched his ceiling.

As for Drew Stanton, your bitching would make some sense if I was proposing we sign him to be the next starting QB for this team.

My other question didn't get posted for some reason so i'll type it again. I'm not saying inside linebacker is priority A but we both agree theres better free agent inside linebackers that are still fairly young. Would you be opposed to us bringing in 1 in order to satisfy the new cap rules?

[Rausch]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

You mean Belcher is a young guy?

23 now the new old?...

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Rausch

23 now the new old?...

Lol again I dont think billay understood.
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[milkman]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

5 TD 9 INT with a 55% completion and not even being able to beat out Shaun Hill is a good backup?

In case you hadn't noticed, Shaun Hill has played some pretty good football over the last couple of years, and ussaully experience gets the nod when establishing a depth chart.

But, imagine that, a young guy on a bad team with minimal experience struggles.

Whoda thunk that was possible?

That is (one of the reasons) why I hate the stat argument.

If you actually watch him play, you would know he has some talent, and with some coaching has solid backup written all over him.

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

My other question didn't get posted for some reason so i'll type it again. I'm not saying inside linebacker is priority A but we both agree theres better free agent inside linebackers that are still fairly young. Would you be opposed to us bringing in 1 in order to satisfy the new cap rules?

I am not suggesting that we shouldn't sign anyone.

What I am suggesting is that our free agent money should be spent on positions of greater need where there's little to no talent, and because Belcher shows promise and upside, that is not an area of need compared to more pressing needs, like OT, WR and NT.

Those are positions I would target, as well as using the money we have to lock up some of our own.

If Belcher doesn't continue to progress this season then target that need next summer.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by Rausch

23 now the new old?...

It's hard to understand Sautos rants because he types with his knuckles.

[SAUTO]

Originally Posted by Bo's Pelini

It's hard to understand Sautos rants because he types with his knuckles.

I think every one else understood. That tells me everything I need to know
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[chiefzilla1501]

Originally Posted by milkman

I am not suggesting that we shouldn't sign anyone.

What I am suggesting is that our free agent money should be spent on positions of greater need where there's little to no talent, and because Belcher shows promise and upside, that is not an area of need compared to more pressing needs, like OT, WR and NT.

Those are positions I would target, as well as using the money we have to lock up some of our own.

If Belcher doesn't continue to progress this season then target that need next summer.

As you know, I'm a lot more resistant to most about signing free agents just for the sake of signing them. And I agree with you on Belcher--I still think he has very good upside.

But what are your thoughts on David Harris? He's still young and he's outstanding.

[Titty Meat]

Originally Posted by milkman

In case you hadn't noticed, Shaun Hill has played some pretty good football over the last couple of years, and ussaully experience gets the nod when establishing a depth chart.

But, imagine that, a young guy on a bad team with minimal experience struggles.

Whoda thunk that was possible?

That is (one of the reasons) why I hate the stat argument.

If you actually watch him play, you would know he has some talent, and with some coaching has solid backup written all over him.

I watch him play every year in the pre-season. The Lions have been a pretty solid offensive team for a few years now. I'd much rather sign a veteran QB until Stanazi is ready to be the #2.