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Old 10-19-2009, 06:54 PM  
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Tank Tyler traded to Carolina

CHIEFS TRADE TANK TYLER
October 19th – 7:48 PM

Breaking News: The Chiefs have traded DT Tank Tyler to the Carolina Panthers for an undisclosed draft pick in 2010.

Per josh looney twitter

UPDATE-The Chiefs got a fifth-rounder in 2010 for Tyler. Per Kent Babb twitter

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Old 10-19-2009, 08:12 PM   #226
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There are only so many human beings built to run a 3-4. It's a very difficult defense to find talent for, unless you want to see a bunch of Derek Lokeys get blown 10 yards off the ball.
Basically it's like this, the 3-4 requires tons of specialized personnel. When you are competing with 5 other teams for that it's not a big deal...

When you are competing with 15 all of the sudden the players that use to be great value are pushed up and we end up with things like Tyson Jackson as the 3rd pick.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:12 PM   #227
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Hamas what do you think of the trade?
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:12 PM   #228
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I thought he improved. I like him too, disappointed to see him go, but not pissed about the 5th. Wasn't he a steal when we got him though? His negative character never came into play, so he should have been a great pick. I love Herm's "coaching" (or destroying good prospects, we lucked out on Flowers and Carr...)
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:12 PM   #229
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Playing 3-4 then actually made some sense...5 teams ran it, now half the league does.
This draft is gonna be full of OLB/DE tweeners though so maybe it is a good time to switch..


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Old 10-19-2009, 08:12 PM   #230
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:13 PM   #231
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:14 PM   #232
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Suh is not a NT in a 3-4 so you can stop that debate right now.
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:14 PM   #234
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:14 PM   #235
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Possibly. But the Chiefs played a 3-4 during the early 90's. It was a damn good D.
yup, Gunther made it a 4-3 when he got here.

iirc DT had 20 sacks the year before as a ROLB in a 3-4

When Cowher left, so did the 3-4
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:15 PM   #236
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And Pioli won't draft a Safety with a top 5 pick either so we can stop that debate too
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Old 10-19-2009, 08:15 PM   #237
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This draft is gonna be full of OLB/DE tweeners though so maybe it is a good time to switch..


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Old 10-19-2009, 08:16 PM   #238
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Defenses are always ranked by yardage. That's why when they refer to scoring they say scoring defense rather than total defense.

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Im not being a dumbass... in yards the still would be number 2 after Rivers has his way... you told me to look at the top defenses this year and i did... 2 of the top 3 runs 3/4's... i was just answering your question with facts...

i understand your logic that 3-4 is a trend... but Pioli knows the 3-4... let him build it his way...

Like another post said, whats the difference when we didnt have the personnel to run either effectively...
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And Pioli won't draft a Safety with a top 5 pick either so we can stop that debate too
I don't believe that one bit.
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Another trend that nearly everybody does these days is...Runningback by Committee.

KC did it back in the day with Marty. Now nearly everyone does it that has a good running game.
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