Chiefs vrabel a chief - Page 19

oldandslow · 02-27-2009, 01:24 PM

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Hootie · 02-27-2009, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by rad

Alright alright we get it....shut up about it already.

as soon as the drafturbators shut up about it...I'll follow suit.

BradyFTW! · 02-27-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by billay

When Pioli first came to New England they signed 20 guys his first year. They won the super bowl with guys like Roman Phifer & Otis Smith. You need Vets to win a superbowl.

^what he said. Also, the best way to make sure that the guys you're drafting now are playing to their potential in 3-4 years is to have guys like Vrabel in the locker room when the're rookies.

Plus, you got a goal-line tight end out of it (8 career TD catches, since nobody ever bothers to cover him, pretty much.

beach tribe · 02-27-2009, 02:25 PM

Seriously people. Shut the **** up. Quit acting like you know more than Scott fuqin Pioli.
While you guys were spending 20 hrs of the day on this fuqin website giving each other virtual felatios Scott Pioli was hoisting SB trophy's.

|Zach| · 02-27-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BradyFTW!

IF Pioli makes the same kind of moves in KC that he did in New England, that's probably an accurate assessment. We have a group of Pats fans that want the workout warriors every year too, and they're always disappointed. Even when Pioli has picked at the top of the draft, those people haven't been psyched. When the Pats picked Seymour, people were mad that we didn't get Koren Robinson or David Terrell. When they picked Light, people were pissed, and even when they picked Mayo last year a bunch of people were mad that they didn't grab Dominique Rodgers-Cromartie.

It takes some getting used to, but they value attributes that don't necessarily jump out at us, and they rarely whiff altogether on a first rounder (Ben Watson and Laurence Maroney aren't exactly lighting it up, but neither's been a bust by a long shot). You'll also get a lot of starter-caliber players in the 3rd and 4th rounds.

But my mock drafts...MY PRECIOUS MOCK DRAFTS!!!

NOOOOOO!!!!!!

All that time being smarter than everyone on Earth. WASTED!

DaWolf · 02-27-2009, 02:25 PM

It seems to me like Schefter has a direct vine to Pioli's office, or someone close to there, because he's been on top of things more than anyone else since Pioli's arrival. Before Pioli's arrival he wasn't even able to predict if Pioli was going to go to KC...

Hootie · 02-27-2009, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yeah, I'm sure that NE has the best interests of the Chiefs in mind.

And if you'd paid one ****ing bit of attention in this thread, you'd also know that not only does this suck for the draft pick involved, but that a MUCH bigger problem is the total marginalization of the #5 pick in the draft that this signals.

Obviously, we were going to move to a 3-4. But this was the confirmation, and wasting Dorsey in a 3-4 is a bitter mother****ing pill to swallow.

well with all of the cap room we have...maybe the Chiefs will please you drafturbators, trade Dorsey, eat the ginormous cap hit that will follow, and we'll get another 1st round pick to play around with?

El Jefe · 02-27-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by dirk digler

Depending on what we gave up I am good with this. It appears they are bringing him to be a leader in the locker room and the field.

Yep. Vrabel is good, he still has some left in the tank. He is an instant locker room upgrade and definetely someone who is a "team" first player, who will help our youngsters, both on the field and off. This obviously is a leadership signing, seeing as Vrabel is near the end of his career. Also will help transition us to the 3-4, if that's what we are going to run.

raybec 4 · 02-27-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

I am fine with it. He's more or less going to be a teacher that plays some.

Lets not overlook the fact that at 34 or 43 he's still a better option than Pat Thomas or Rocky ****in Boiman. I would not have traded for him personally but I will not claim to have knowledge of what is the best thing for any NFL team.

HC_Chief · 02-27-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by kcxiv

I am fine with that, but he has been brought in to show the Patriot way. Thats fine in my book. We need something like that on defense.

Agreed.... also why I think he'll be the captain

'Hamas' Jenkins · 02-27-2009, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hootie

well with all of the cap room we have...maybe the Chiefs will please you drafturbators, trade Dorsey, eat the ginormous cap hit that will follow, and we'll get another 1st round pick to play around with?

Yeah, because we'll get a first for Dorsey right now...

rolstrol · 02-27-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

THE SAME guys who were laughing about donnie edwards needing a RB to give him a ride out of town are now crying about getting rid of him and trading for vrabel. at least vrabel TACKLES

and gives the chiefs

leadership and a pass rusher

Sully · 02-27-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

While you guys were spending 20 hrs of the day on this fuqin website giving each other virtual felatios Scott Pioli was hoisting SB trophy's.

I wasn't online that day.

ChiefsCountry · 02-27-2009, 02:27 PM

On the field leadership with Vrabel is fine. I am excited about that but if he was going to get cut then its pretty stupid to trade for him. Of course you need vets but you also need young guys. A 7th rounder might not be a starter but they can be the key special team pieces that teams need.

Also to all you guys who keep calling us draftautors or Mecca's minions or Gang 14 or whatever go fist yourselves. So some of us have the same ideas to build a team big freaking deal, we dont agree on everything or have the same taste in players.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 02-27-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Just Passin' By

You are pissing and moaning, and you don't even know the terms of the deal.

Apparently you missed the part where I said that ANY draft pick is too much for something you already had on your roster and let walk, or could have signed in FA and saved that pick.

The only way I'll be OK with this deal is if it's something like a swap of picks in a later round.

But to flat out give up a pick for a 34 year old that is on the decline, even if conditional, is foolish when you're trying to rebuild.

beach tribe · 02-27-2009, 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Yeah, I'm sure that NE has the best interests of the Chiefs in mind.

And if you'd paid one ****ing bit of attention in this thread, you'd also know that not only does this suck for the draft pick involved, but that a MUCH bigger problem is the total marginalization of the #5 pick in the draft that this signals.

Obviously, we were going to move to a 3-4. But this was the confirmation, and wasting Dorsey in a 3-4 is a bitter mother****ing pill to swallow.

This does not mean we won't be playing any 4-3.

You do not have to be 6'6" to be a successful 3-4 DE.

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beach tribe Keep doubting J MFing Houston Join Date: May 2007 Location: ft.lauderdale Casino cash: $3948036	Seriously people. Shut the **** up. Quit acting like you know more than Scott fuqin Pioli. While you guys were spending 20 hrs of the day on this fuqin website giving each other virtual felatios Scott Pioli was hoisting SB trophy's.
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DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	It seems to me like Schefter has a direct vine to Pioli's office, or someone close to there, because he's been on top of things more than anyone else since Pioli's arrival. Before Pioli's arrival he wasn't even able to predict if Pioli was going to go to KC...
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1501248	On the field leadership with Vrabel is fine. I am excited about that but if he was going to get cut then its pretty stupid to trade for him. Of course you need vets but you also need young guys. A 7th rounder might not be a starter but they can be the key special team pieces that teams need. Also to all you guys who keep calling us draftautors or Mecca's minions or Gang 14 or whatever go fist yourselves. So some of us have the same ideas to build a team big freaking deal, we dont agree on everything or have the same taste in players.
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