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Old 09-17-2012, 08:34 PM  
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Bob Fescoe's Chiefs meltdown this morning

Did several searches. Can't believe this epic rant isn't posted, which probably means it's buried 137 posts deep in some thread with virtually zero description. But I'm posting it anyway. It's too important. Enjoy. (It's an audio link.)

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Old 09-18-2012, 07:48 AM   #76
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He's in over his head.
This.

He cares. He's the only one in the family that even cares about any legacy.

But he has no clue how to operate this.

And he's a nice guy. He doesn't like to be the bad guy.

Sack up Clark - it's time.

If you want the big piece of chicken at dinner you have to make the hard decisions...
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:05 AM   #77
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I think Clark has good intentions and I don't think he's cheap. I do believe that the numbers a skewed. I believe his direct involvement in the cba negociations is a good example that he cares. He wouldn't have renovated the stadium if he didn't care.
Don't kid yourself. Clark participated in CBA negotiations because he had his own financial interests to protect. Guys like Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones want the NFL to do things that would cut deeply into Clark's profits. I don't THINK he's cheap but I KNOW that he's in this to make money.

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I agree that he needs to take a more direct approach. I think Pioli has him under his thumb and Clark is being manipulated. He needs some help from someone that he can trust imo. He's in over his head.
Clark is not being manipulated. He handed the franchise to Pioli. He's getting EXACTLY what he wanted in that regard.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:06 AM   #78
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At one point on Keitzman yesterday, a guy called in saying it's hard to put the majority of the blame on Pioli when Clark hired the guy and refuses to spend all the $$ he could (referring the 25 mil under the cap we are)

Keitzman got pissed (you could hear the blood pressure rise in his voice) and said "The Hunts renovated Arrowhead with thier own money, it's not Clark's fault!!!" and cut the guy off and started blaming Pioli some more.

than another guy called in and blamed Clark again (for being cheap) and Keitzman got more pissed and said "that 25 million under the cap is a slanted stat", "those numbers are skewed" and "you can manipulate the stats to blame Clark but that's really unfair" and cut that caller off

THAN one last caller blamed Clark being cheap, and Keitzman got even more pissed off, cut the guy off immediately, went to a commerical, than came back and started talking Royals and Mizzou Football.

its going to be hard to listen to Keitzman ever again if Clark is paying him to watch his back, which, based on the above, is hard for me not to wonder about.

especially considering Clark hasn't said anything to defend himself, let alone punished Scott Piloi
Keitzman isn't getting paid by Clark. Keitzman says it the way he sees it, plain and simple. He's usually wrong, which is why everybody thinks he's a dumbass.

But in this case, he's right. That cap number doesn't tell the whole story.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:09 AM   #79
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Don't kid yourself. Clark participated in CBA negotiations because he had his own financial interests to protect. Guys like Dan Snyder and Jerry Jones want the NFL to do things that would cut deeply into Clark's profits. I don't THINK he's cheap but I KNOW that he's in this to make money.



Clark is not being manipulated. He handed the franchise to Pioli. He's getting EXACTLY what he wanted in that regard.
Speculation. Everything you post is speculation. Please start saying "in my opinion" somewhere in your crazy conspiracy theories.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:10 AM   #80
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This.

He cares. He's the only one in the family that even cares about any legacy.

But he has no clue how to operate this.

And he's a nice guy. He doesn't like to be the bad guy.

Sack up Clark - it's time.

If you want the big piece of chicken at dinner you have to make the hard decisions...
Yep, he needs a good football advisor.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:30 AM   #81
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Speculation. Everything you post is speculation. Please start saying "in my opinion" somewhere in your crazy conspiracy theories.
Common sense isn't speculation.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:30 AM   #82
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Yep, he needs a good football advisor.
He hired Pioli to be a good football advisor.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:31 AM   #83
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Common sense isn't speculation.
No, it's not man.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:33 AM   #84
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He hired Pioli to be a good football advisor.
He hired Pioli to be a GM. Miami hired Parcells to an advisor. Then they hired Carl peterson to be an advisor. Houston hired Dan Reeves to an advisor.

What makes an advisor different from a GM?

An advisor isn't looking out for his own best interests.
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Old 09-18-2012, 08:58 AM   #85
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Keitzman isn't getting paid by Clark. Keitzman says it the way he sees it, plain and simple. He's usually wrong, which is why everybody thinks he's a dumbass.

But in this case, he's right. That cap number doesn't tell the whole story.
Wrong KK and WHB are paying to suck up to the the Chiefs...that is how much he hated Carl he will pay to love Scott, and yet he can't even make payroll for the people at WHB.
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Old 09-18-2012, 09:00 AM   #86
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Wrong KK and WHB are paying to suck up to the the Chiefs...that is how much he hated Carl he will pay to love Scott, and yet he can't even make payroll for the people at WHB.
If he's paying to love Scott, why did he spend so much time yesterday bashing the guy?
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Keitzman isn't getting paid by Clark. Keitzman says it the way he sees it, plain and simple. He's usually wrong, which is why everybody thinks he's a dumbass.

But in this case, he's right. That cap number doesn't tell the whole story.
I've seen a few people say this, but honestly, I've been so disgusted by the Chiefs' approach to this season, I haven't paid much attention.

What part of the story is missing from the cap number?
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