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03-06-2001, 02:27 PM | #2 |
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Query - do 'environmental protest' crimes qualify as hate crimes? For example PETA folks throwing blood, paint, etc., on people wearing fur, spikes in trees slated for logging.
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03-06-2001, 02:34 PM | #3 |
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where do liberals fit in your thread?
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03-06-2001, 02:38 PM | #4 |
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The media...They are the ones that sensationalize this stuff to play towards the groups that they know they can get a big stir from...
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03-06-2001, 02:45 PM | #5 |
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I believe us liberals fit into the thread as those folks who somehow think that the Wichita District Attorney is not a part of "the Media". Boy, are we liberals silly! [Edited by DanT on 03-06-2001 at 02:47 PM] |
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03-06-2001, 02:50 PM | #6 |
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Prosecutors have a tough enough time getting convictions as it is...They don't like having to make it even tougher by throwing "Hate Crime" charges on top of it...They usually only pursue Hate crime charges when there is huge public outcry and that out cry is usually determined by the media stirring up certain groups based on their presentation of the news...
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03-06-2001, 03:37 PM | #7 |
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DAN T,
I'll tell you were they fit into this. Who has been the biggest supporters of this HATE CRIME legislation? There is your answer.
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03-06-2001, 03:42 PM | #8 |
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it has been argued in the past that where the television media is considered "Liberal" the print media is considered "conservative". I would go as far to say the internet has a wealth of conservatively slanted news sites, whereas liberal news sources are sparse. Either that, or my search engine is programmed by E.I.B . . . holy shnikies!
I think its all a bunch of hooey myself. With the exception of a few big newspapers, and some cable TV networks, I'm a firm believer in the "squeaky wheel gets the oil" concept. The News Directors of any legit news source know what is headline material and what is not, I doubt there is much in the way political bearing.
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03-06-2001, 03:43 PM | #9 |
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"The media" is not liberal, my friends.
"The media" is a multi-billion dollar industry run by multi-billionaires. "The media" has no agenda, political or otherwise, beyond making money. "The media" does not care about the validity, honesty or clarity of the stories they provide, nor do they care about the ramifications, ethical, moral, or otherwise about their content. "The media" only cares about one thing, and one thing alone: ratings - how many of us are watching, listening and reading. That's all. That's the bottom line. Don't buy into the hype. |
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03-06-2001, 03:50 PM | #10 |
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All that power and no intension on using it. Please
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03-06-2001, 03:56 PM | #11 |
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I did not say they didn't use the power - I said they aren't liberal.
There's a difference... They supercede the black and whiteness of "liberal" vs. "conservative". The media is a big milky greyness of self serving goals goaded by nothing more than that which drives us all, to some degree: greed. Politicians are the same way. You're fooling yourself if you think that the media, or Washington for that matter, is as simple to comprehend as "conservatives on the right" and "liberals on the left". |
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03-06-2001, 04:27 PM | #12 |
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Keg,
Yes, I realize that would be a very limited thought pattern. However, there are still very left wing agendas being pushed by many large media sources, CNN being the worst. Fox is the only one that is at least trying to use a balanced approach. Their ratings have skyrocketed while the other majors have dropped, some significantly. If what you say is true they would try and balance out their shows but they continue their left-wing freindly agenda as well as continueing their all out assault on guns.The media definately has a left-wing socialist biase, if you cannot see it I don't know what to say.
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03-06-2001, 04:36 PM | #13 |
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You see it because you want to see it.
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03-06-2001, 05:09 PM | #14 |
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Keg,
Funny, even my liberal freinds all admit to media being heavily liberal in their bias. I have also noticed posts on this BB and the other by Liberals also acknowledging the same. I suppose they all want to see it too. I don't think that I am the dillusional one here.
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As far as the Wichita crime goes, I agree that it wasn't racially motivated, and it wouldn't matter if it was. It was totally sick, & I hope those bastards die a slow, painful death.
The people of Wichita are not "howling" about it. It's already old news here. I haven't heard a word about it since they arrested the suspects, and probably won't until the trial begins. If people around here were howling, they'd probably be conservatives, since the overwhelming majority of people in the city belong to the Republican party. |
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