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SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

KChiefs1 · 12-08-2010, 11:49 PM

Pujols won't leave St Louis therefore his value is downgraded.

tk13 · 12-08-2010, 11:49 PM

We've spent a lot more than a few playoff teams the last 3-4 years. Especially the Rays and Rockies of the world.

But he's right in general, the Red Sox and Yankees have definitely re-ignited the arms race. Even teams like the Cardinals really can't compete with that.

**alnorth** · 12-08-2010, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

My point wasn't an indictment on the Royals, just the frustration related to these free agent signings. When guys like Werth go for $120M, the Royals won't be able to compete at some point, even with good scouting and development.

There are only 2, perhaps 3 teams that can afford these crazy contracts, and even they cant afford to hand out more than maybe 10 each. Since these high contracts correlate with older players who are past their prime, it also isnt a given that they have all the best players. Some, sure and you can certainly buy a better than 50-50 shot at the playoffs, but what we basically have is 2 or 3 teams with a free pass most years, and 27 or 28 teams fighting for the other 5 or 6 slots. (soon to be 7 or 8)

This isn't armageddon. In a perfect utopia it would be different, but the Twins are not a fluke. Some teams have owners who are so tight-fisted that they are pretty well screwed, but that does not include the Royals. Not anymore, anyway, if you can spend 50-60 right now, you have a shot. You can be consistently good year after year with flashes of greatness, it just requires some luck and a GM who is not an idiot.

KChiefs1 · 12-08-2010, 11:56 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Holy shit, Red Sox to sign Crawford - 7 years $142M. I'm immediately reminded why major league baseball sucks. They have a down year, decide to trade/sign two All-Stars and give them a combined $300M. Royals payroll for the last decade wouldn't add up to $300M.

This is going to put the Yankees in overdrive.

**alnorth** · 12-09-2010, 12:02 AM

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Originally Posted by KChiefs1

This is going to put the Yankees in overdrive.

The perfect scenario is some crazy-ass mystery team (or the Angels) jump out from left field to sign Lee, leaving the Rangers and Yankees scrambling for Greinke.

KC_Connection · 12-09-2010, 12:15 AM

I'm still glad I didn't have to watch Halladay on the Yankees or Red Sox this year. Oh, how I hate those teams.

KC_Connection · 12-09-2010, 12:21 AM

Morosi is reporting you guys are signing Melky. He was just awful last year.

Pitt Gorilla · 12-09-2010, 12:26 AM

The price of poker went up in a big way. I think this helps the Royals get what they want for Greinke.

**alnorth** · 12-09-2010, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by KC_Connection

Morosi is reporting you guys are signing Melky. He was just awful last year.

oh, God. This better be 1 year for a tiny amount of money.

Melky's stats are baffling. He's never been worth a damn at the plate, but during his years with the yankees he was usually an adequate center fielder. Why did he suddenly turn into such a huge liability in Atlanta? Thats just bizarre. He went from marginally above replacement level with the glove to utterly horrific in one year, if thats not a fluke and he really is that bad, then its going to be comical watching him chase after balls in our spacious outfield.

Geez, depending on which one you look at, he was either -0.4 WAR or -1.2 WAR last year, all because his defensive stats sucked.

**alnorth** · 12-09-2010, 12:53 AM

comical posts from outside observers:

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Cornering the market on shitty outfielders, I see.

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Melky and Francouer in the same outfield

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Dayon Moore: Outfielders :: Matt Millen: Wide Receivers

I don't even see why he dealt DeJesus in the first place. But hey, maybe he'll acquire Ibanez next.

**alnorth** · 12-09-2010, 12:59 AM

Melky Cabrera, 1 year $1.25MM, 250k incentives.

Well, ok. That contract has "stopgap" written all over it. We get to laugh at Frenchy and Melky attempt to catch fly balls for a year, then we cut them.

Our outfield is going to suck next year. We really need to develop those prospects ASAP because this is going to be brutal to watch. Or hell maybe one or both will surprise us and we can deal them off.

I'm optimistically hoping both of these are "what the hell" flyer contracts where we are not planning on winning anyway, no one is really blocked yet (Myers will be in AA), we risk nothing, and if one of these clowns has a comeback year we get another draft pick or a trade offer.

Sure-Oz · 12-09-2010, 01:19 AM

Gordon has to be on the move

jbwm89 · 12-09-2010, 01:53 AM

Melky and Francouer are Ankiel all over again. If they have a breakout season we hold on to them. Otherwise we give them some at bats and hope to trade them for something. Would you rather us sit pat and do nothing at least we are trying to acquire prospects.

siberian khatru · 12-09-2010, 07:11 AM

I suspect DeezNutz and I are taking the Melky signing the hardest.

**DeezNutz** · 12-09-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by siberian khatru

I suspect DeezNutz and I are taking the Melky signing the hardest.

You mean it's not normal to want to begin the day with a triple shot Irish coffee?

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tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1452500	We've spent a lot more than a few playoff teams the last 3-4 years. Especially the Rays and Rockies of the world. But he's right in general, the Red Sox and Yankees have definitely re-ignited the arms race. Even teams like the Cardinals really can't compete with that.
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KC_Connection Perpetual Mediocrity Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $4832783	Morosi is reporting you guys are signing Melky. He was just awful last year.
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12-09-2010, 12:59 AM	#2951
alnorth . Join Date: Dec 2002 Casino cash: $57156239	Melky Cabrera, 1 year $1.25MM, 250k incentives. Well, ok. That contract has "stopgap" written all over it. We get to laugh at Frenchy and Melky attempt to catch fly balls for a year, then we cut them. Our outfield is going to suck next year. We really need to develop those prospects ASAP because this is going to be brutal to watch. Or hell maybe one or both will surprise us and we can deal them off. I'm optimistically hoping both of these are "what the hell" flyer contracts where we are not planning on winning anyway, no one is really blocked yet (Myers will be in AA), we risk nothing, and if one of these clowns has a comeback year we get another draft pick or a trade offer. __________________ how many emo kids does it take to change a lightbulb? HOW MANY?! none they just sit in the dark and cry
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