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SPchief · 04:22 PM

All Royals All The Time!

After consultation with others who peruse the game threads we decided to create this as a repository for all things Royals. Minor league news, AL (ahem) Central (thanks Vonne) news and anything Royals can be found here.

alnorth, me and atleast 5 others will continue the game threads as usual. But if you locate something of interest.. ANYTHING.. deals on apparel, best ways in/out of the stadium, giveaways, great stories from this season or from seasons gone by, rumors, trades, anything.... feel free to post it here.

If a big story breaks, you can still start a thread about it. There is merely an all inclusive thread that will make a easy for us all to keep up with all things Royals.

Welcome! "Grab a Brew... don't cost nuthin"...[spills beer on feet]

KevB · 12-08-2010, 10:57 PM

One interesting point on Crawford....much of his value is defensive, but you don't really need much of a defensive star in left field at Fenway.

**DeezNutz** · 12-08-2010, 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

uhh, no. Lee's signing is the roadblock, and he'll sign this weekend. We dont necessarily know that Greinke would be traded next week, but we have no reason to believe it would take a lot longer.

I'm just saying we can all stop checking twitter every 10 minutes and cut it down to, say twice a day.

Bet it's done tomorrow, since NY has gone to six years.

KevB · 12-08-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Bet it's done tomorrow, since NY has gone to six years.

You can bet after the Red Sox haul that the Yankees will stop at nothing to get Lee. That's probably good for the Royals, as Texas is probably the best option, other than maybe the Jays. The Angels have money burning a hole in their pocket, any chance they'll go after Greinke? I haven't heard their name at all.

Sure-Oz · 12-08-2010, 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Holy shit, Red Sox to sign Crawford - 7 years $142M. I'm immediately reminded why major league baseball sucks. They have a down year, decide to trade/sign two All-Stars and give them a combined $300M. Royals payroll for the last decade wouldn't add up to $300M.

Ridiculous contracts for him and Werth. Crawford is a stud but not that damn good

**DeezNutz** · 12-08-2010, 11:06 PM

Haven't seen a single report linking them to Greinke, but they owe us big for snaking Hunter at the last minute.

ChiefsCountry · 12-08-2010, 11:06 PM

Its going to be crazy to see what Pujols is going to get.

tk13 · 12-08-2010, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Its going to be crazy to see what Pujols is going to get.

That's what I was going to say.

**DeezNutz** · 12-08-2010, 11:09 PM

Pujols is in an unusual category, however. It's not possible to overpay him because of the money that he's generated for the franchise AND the city. $30M per? Big deal. He brings in far, far more than that per year.

Honestly, he might be the only ML player who has achieved this type of Jordan status for what he means to an organization and city.

KevB · 12-08-2010, 11:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DeezNutz

Pujols is in an unusual category, however. It's not possible to overpay him because of the money that he's generated for the franchise AND the city. $30M per? Big deal. He brings in far, far more than that per year.

Honestly, he might be the only ML player who has achieved this type of Jordan status for what he means to an organization and city.

He'll get an ARod Rangers contract most likely

Sure-Oz · 12-08-2010, 11:14 PM

Crawford playing LF in fenway is a waste, why not play him in center

**alnorth** · 12-08-2010, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

Holy shit, Red Sox to sign Crawford - 7 years $142M. I'm immediately reminded why major league baseball sucks. They have a down year, decide to trade/sign two All-Stars and give them a combined $300M. Royals payroll for the last decade wouldn't add up to $300M.

Ummm, I immediately knew that last sentence had to be wrong, so I checked. We spent about 516 million the last 10 years on payroll. The first part of the decade we were cheap and near the bottom averaging about 35-40. Last year we were at 71, which put us higher than about 1/3 of the teams in baseball. Another 10 million or so and we are average.

Lets not make this a bigger deal than it is. Its not the amount per year thats amazing, its the length of the contract. If a team wants to take a risk that a contract will look bad 5 years from now, fine. Crawford is getting $21MM per year. Thats not all that far off what we are giving Greinke (if he stays) and Meche next year.

Crawford is probably only worth about 15 or so million right now given his easy to fill position and his WAR, so hes being overpaid a little, but the red sox are taking the risk that they might have one of the worst contracts in baseball 3-4 years from now.

KevB · 12-08-2010, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Ummm, I immediately knew that last sentence had to be wrong, so I checked. We spent about 516 million the last 10 years on payroll. The first part of the decade we were cheap and near the bottom averaging about 35-40. Last year we were at 71, which put us higher than about 1/3 of the teams in baseball. Another 10 million or so and we are average.

Lets not make this a bigger deal than it is. Its not the amount per year thats amazing, its the length of the contract. If a team wants to take a risk that a contract will look bad 5 years from now, fine. Crawford is getting $21MM per year. Thats not all that far off what we are giving Greinke (if he stays) and Meche next year.

Crawford is probably only worth about 15 or so million right now given his easy to fill position and his WAR, so hes being overpaid a little, but the red sox are taking the risk that they might have one of the worst contracts in baseball 3-4 years from now.

I knew it was wrong when I typed it, but I left it for effect. The point is the same. The gap is widening between the haves and have nots. Eventually, even the best scouting and development in the world won't be able to overcome.

KevB · 12-08-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

Lets not make this a bigger deal than it is. Its not the amount per year thats amazing, its the length of the contract. If a team wants to take a risk that a contract will look bad 5 years from now, fine. Crawford is getting $21MM per year. Thats not all that far off what we are giving Greinke (if he stays) and Meche next year.

Crawford is probably only worth about 15 or so million right now given his easy to fill position and his WAR, so hes being overpaid a little, but the red sox are taking the risk that they might have one of the worst contracts in baseball 3-4 years from now.

Again, part of the point is that it really isn't a risk for Boston, because if he struggles on the back end they can just buy their way out of it.

**alnorth** · 12-08-2010, 11:34 PM

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Originally Posted by KevB

I knew it was wrong when I typed it, but I left it for effect. The point is the same. The gap is widening between the haves and have nots. Eventually, even the best scouting and development in the world won't be able to overcome.

We spent more than the Texas Rangers last season. A LOT more.

KevB · 12-08-2010, 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by alnorth

We spent more than the Texas Rangers last season. A LOT more.

My point wasn't an indictment on the Royals, just the frustration related to these free agent signings. When guys like Werth go for $120M, the Royals won't be able to compete at some point, even with good scouting and development.

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