Pastor refuses to tip "I give GOD 10% why do you get 18%"

[QuikSsurfer]

http://gawker.com/5980177/pastor-ref...r-tip-than-god

Unhappy with having to pay a restaurant's auto-gratuity of 18% for parties of eight or more, a pissed-off pastor used his receipt to express his indignation.

"I give God 10% — why do you get 18?," the man wrote above the autograt line before crossing out the pre-printed tip and signing the receipt "pastor."

The St. Louis-area server who posted a pic of the receipt on Reddit said the pastor was dining with a party of 20, and asked to have the $200+ bill broken up into smaller increments in a failed attempt to avoid paying the 18% tip.

"They had no problem with my service, and told me I was great," the server said. "They just didn't want to pay when the time came."

Redditors have been trying to track down the less-than-charitable Christian, but have so far been unable to identify the culprit.

At least one pastor was forced to issue a response denying responsibility, and the server herself has asked fellow Redditors to stop posting personal information of random people "who don't deserve a Reddit mob banging down their Internet door."

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UPDATE

Edit: Pastor has now apologized -- waitress fired.

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/documen...logizes-687234










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[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Sully

I tip well, but have noticed more lately (maybe I'm just getting crotchety) some ridiculous establishments hinting at tips.
The worst;
The new self-serve yogurt places.
Let me get this straight. I get a cup, fill it myself with delicious yogurt, then I spoon the perfect mix of assorted ingredients over said yogurt, followed by me weighing my flawless concoction, so that you may push a button in a register, so I can pay. And you want a tip? Seriously?

Yeah, those are the worst.

[Hootie]

the smaller the bill, the bigger the % of tip you receive

you know, even busy restaurants don't prefer large groups for the linger factor...(on busy nights)

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by scho63

I feel tipping has gotten so out of hand.

I normally do 20% but one of the things that bothers me is if I order an expensive meal and have expensive drinks with a bill of $80 just for me and some shithead orders 5 glasses of water, condiments, the special, sends his meal back once and his bill is $25 with the server doing 5x's more work, he gets away with a $4-5 tip and mine is $16.

I also eat at the bar 99% of the time but still tip 20%

I HATE all these tip jars at everyplace you buy something

The rule is you don't necessarily tip on booze, just the food section.

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

Nah.

I'd take it off as manager if they had a good reason to complain. If the service was truly bad and the server was at fault, the auto grat is off.

However, our menus CLEARLY stated that parties of 8 or more would receive an 18% gratuity and we stuck to that and I'd stick up for my employees 10 times out of 10.

You don't go to work, have your section hoarded by a group for 3 hours, and not get tipped. That's not right when you make $2.13 an hour.

And you know what...and my managers used to use me as an example when servers would complain about their auto grat being removed...I was the go to guy for big groups (I loved working them, I was good at them) and I never once had any person (no matter what race, religion, social standing) ask for a manager to remove the auto-gratuity. They would ask ALL OF THE TIME about what it was and I'd say "oh that's the gratuity that is added for groups of 8 or more" and you could tell some of them were annoyed but no one ever complained because people aren't liars...

they weren't going to throw me under the bus after they just received IMPECCABLE service because I know who the bad tippers are and who the complainers are so that's when I give them the best service they could ever get because that's THE ONLY WAY to keep them quiet...

and they'd test me in any way you'd ever know how...they'd get their meals and "not like it", so I'd get them something else and they "wouldn't like it" and I'd never budge, just non-stop apologies and kindness until they finally gave up because they knew I wouldn't break.

It was the easiest job in the world. I just don't let those kinds of people get to me, ever. When people gave me a hard time I'd use the "at least I'm me and they are them" logic 10 times out of 10. I'd rather be their bitch for 1 hour then have to go home to whatever it is they went home to that made them so miserable.

I understand what you are saying though. But if policy is to add gratuity for 8 ppl or more. You can't pick and choose which groups to add grat to. That makes you look bad too, because say a party came in one time and didn't get grat'd and then they came back and did with the same number of people, they are gonna be like wtf?

[Bump]

Originally Posted by Swanman

The rule is you don't necessarily tip on booze, just the food section.

lol, yes you should tip on booze.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Rain Man

I had a realization last year that since I don't drink I don't tip as much. So if I'm in a sports bar or pub-type restaurant and I order the ribs, salad, and soda, I'm a lower-dollar tipper than the guy at the next table who ordered the ribs, salad, and two beers, even if we tip the same percentage. But I'm probably just as much work.

So I'll ask the people with restaurant experience. Do I get sneered at if I'm the 10 percent that doesn't order alcohol? Am I perceived to be a "cheap tipper" even though I tip the same amount?

I'd honestly never thought about this, but it really started bothering me. I've even started upgrading my tips if I'm in a place where most people are drinking alcohol.

nah water drinkers don't bother me one bit...and I also don't think of water drinkers as cheap, either

but if you watch a football game for 3 hours and I refill your drink 5-10 times...you should probably tip on bill + an hourly rate in all honesty...

I'll sit at BW3 for a Chiefs game and drink water and if my bill is $15 I'll usually leave $10 if I'm there for the whole game since I took an entire table out of someone's section...and even then they probably still aren't making what they deserve.

We'd go to our bar, drink $15 $1 beers and eat once...have a $25 bill and our hot waitress would wait on us the whole time (5+ hours on football Sunday) and we'd all give her a $20 tip to make it worth her while. They LOVED us there. Of course, it's a townie bar and we were the only football regulars for their Sunday ticket...and lets just say by 6 PM things got a little out of control.

But yeah, you should tip on time seated as well...which some people don't get.

[QuikSsurfer]

Originally Posted by Swanman

The rule is you don't necessarily tip on booze, just the food section.

This is true but not a lot of people follow that.
I remember a time when one of my buddies sold a $500 bottle of wine and was showing off to all the other servers -- the table (two top) had a $100 meal (minus the wine) and tipped $20
He learned a valuable lesson that night

[DementedLogic]

Originally Posted by Bump

I understand what you are saying though. But if policy is to add gratuity for 8 ppl or more. You can't pick and choose which groups to add grat to. That makes you look bad too, because say a party came in one time and didn't get grat'd and then they came back and did with the same number of people, they are gonna be like wtf?

Actually you can. I've only ever added gratuity once. Servers at my work pick and choose all of the time. Our menu says that gratuity is added for tables of 8 or more, but our manager only adds it at the request of the server.

[Swanman]

Originally Posted by Bump

lol, yes you should tip on booze.

It depends on the booze. If you each ordered a beer or a glass of wine, then tip 15-20% on the entire order. But, if you had $100 in food and a $300 bottle of wine (extreme case), you don't need to do 15-20% on the expensive bottle of wine. Just look at the effort involved in just bringing a bottle to the table (as opposed to taking order, bringing out food, refiling drinks, checking in periodically, etc), it doesn't make sense to tip 20% for that.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by Bump

I understand what you are saying though. But if policy is to add gratuity for 8 ppl or more. You can't pick and choose which groups to add grat to. That makes you look bad too, because say a party came in one time and didn't get grat'd and then they came back and did with the same number of people, they are gonna be like wtf?

totally agree

[LiL stumppy]

I'm a bartender and don't really enjoy the % aspect of it either, if I make you 4 frozen margaritas, while taken up time from my other bar patrons, and the total is 12 because they're on special, a $2.40 tip would not be sufficient. I don't care if it's "20 percent."

Rarely do tips get on my nerves in any aspect. I only look at tips on large bills, because it's some what exciting to see what you earned.. I am more concerned with the restaurant manners many American's do not possess.

It's simple, if you follow these rules, I do not care what you tip.

1. Be polite
2. Don't downgrade me to make your self feel more proper and wealthy (I work at a higher end bar/restaurant)
3. Don't complain about how strong drinks are.

It's really that simple. If people were simply like this, I wouldn't care the difference between %15 to %20. It's the people that are unbelievably rude, who don't tip, that make me hate people.

[Hootie]

for people that want 3 beers and only want to tip on the 1st...

just open a freaking tab and tip at the end...

I tab it all the time because I hate tipping only $1 and it saves me money to just tip 20-25% at the end of my tab.

[Hootie]

bro...4 margaritas isn't worth more than 20%

and if you think it is, then how about all of the 20% tips you get (or more) for popping open a can of beer?

it all evens out...that's what most tipped employees don't understand and what irritates the **** out of me

[Rain Man]

Originally Posted by Peyton's Princess

nah water drinkers don't bother me one bit...and I also don't think of water drinkers as cheap, either

but if you watch a football game for 3 hours and I refill your drink 5-10 times...you should probably tip on bill + an hourly rate in all honesty...

I'll sit at BW3 for a Chiefs game and drink water and if my bill is $15 I'll usually leave $10 if I'm there for the whole game since I took an entire table out of someone's section...and even then they probably still aren't making what they deserve.

We'd go to our bar, drink $15 $1 beers and eat once...have a $25 bill and our hot waitress would wait on us the whole time (5+ hours on football Sunday) and we'd all give her a $20 tip to make it worth her while. They LOVED us there. Of course, it's a townie bar and we were the only football regulars for their Sunday ticket...and lets just say by 6 PM things got a little out of control.

But yeah, you should tip on time seated as well...which some people don't get.

Seated time was my other realization. The sports bar I went to this year was ludicrously cheap. I'd get an appetizer and a meal and water and it would come to like $12. So I'd give them a $10 tip because I felt guilty for sitting there for three hours.

I really want to give this restaurant some free consulting. They have no expensive menu items to bring the average bill up, and they don't serve any desserts, and they do unlimited chips and salsa if you buy it for $4. I go in there and as a non-drinker it's almost impossible for me to spend more than $15. My wife says they don't care about me because they're more interested in selling booze, but I still think they're leaving a lot of money on the table by having a poorly planned food menu.

[Hootie]

who cares if someone is an asshole to you? Are you ever going to see that person again? That's what I never got...

If I'm ever a waiter again feel free to be a jerkoff to me...it makes me laugh more than anything. I used to crack co-workers up when they'd see someone try to be an asshole to me because I would literally let it roll of my shoulders SO MUCH that the person would get even more mad because they wouldn't understand why they didn't get some sort of reaction out of me...

Who ****ing cares?