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Old 12-05-2010, 05:01 PM   Topic Starter
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Why does Todd Haley hate field goals?
Memo to Haley... it is not the end of the world to settle for 3 points... ESPECIALLY IN A LOW SCORING GAME.

Electing to punt rather than kick a 51 yard field goal and then bypassing the field goal on 4th down near the goal line.

It is dumb, border-line reckless game management to not take the points.
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:02 PM   #2
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:02 PM   #3
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:03 PM   #4
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:04 PM   #5
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I agree-I like taking a risk once in a while but that call was total horse sh*t!!! Kick the FG.

Bad risk / reward call
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Old 12-05-2010, 05:10 PM   #6
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He'll keep making those dumb decisions until he loses a game because of it. I hate it when he does it and I'd even like to know how many possible points have been left on the field this season because of it. He's always said hes going to go for it on 4th down when he's around the 40ish in enemy territory, so he obviously doesnt mind giving the opposing team the ball around there. Then he punts the ball today instead of trying a 51 yard FG? wtf? Later he's up by 7 and goes for it instead of kicking an extra point to make a 2 score game?... Good teams take advantage when given a second chance. Haley is going to have to put aside his ego if/when we get in the playoffs.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:30 PM   #7
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He'll keep making those dumb decisions until he loses a game because of it. I hate it when he does it and I'd even like to know how many possible points have been left on the field this season because of it. He's always said hes going to go for it on 4th down when he's around the 40ish in enemy territory, so he obviously doesnt mind giving the opposing team the ball around there. Then he punts the ball today instead of trying a 51 yard FG? wtf? Later he's up by 7 and goes for it instead of kicking an extra point to make a 2 score game?... Good teams take advantage when given a second chance. Haley is going to have to put aside his ego if/when we get in the playoffs.
And how many points would we have left on the field this year had we kicked field goals on all the drives where we converted a 4th-and-short and then scored a touchdown?

Yes, Haley has an unconditional approach to these situations, but, as other posters have mentioned, there is a lot of statistical evidence that suggests he's right.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:38 PM   #8
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He'll keep making those dumb decisions until he loses a game because of it. I hate it when he does it and I'd even like to know how many possible points have been left on the field this season because of it. He's always said hes going to go for it on 4th down when he's around the 40ish in enemy territory, so he obviously doesnt mind giving the opposing team the ball around there. Then he punts the ball today instead of trying a 51 yard FG? wtf? Later he's up by 7 and goes for it instead of kicking an extra point to make a 2 score game?... Good teams take advantage when given a second chance. Haley is going to have to put aside his ego if/when we get in the playoffs.
The first sentence of this post is funny. He's been doing it all year and we are still waiting for it to cost us a game? Is it really dumb then?
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Long FG no go doesn't bother me. Long kick...cold hard ball. Doubt he makes it.
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Look at last weeks game for Denver agaist the Rams
they can score points in a mother****ing hurry
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interesting. In this particular situation it was apparently a marginal call either way.

Most coaches are far, FAR too conservative, a coach who likes to gamble a little bit is more likely to make the right decision than a coach who is constantly terrified about losing by a couple points.
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Old 12-06-2010, 12:12 PM   #13
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Doesn't that graph "say" that the FG should have been kicked instead of going for it?
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Doesn't that graph "say" that the FG should have been kicked instead of going for it?
It looks like the line tracks exactly with yards and to go up to 6. To me, I think the graph is basically saying (unless its to win the game or something) that you should never kick a field goal if you are within the 7 yard line.
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It looks like the line tracks exactly with yards and to go up to 6. To me, I think the graph is basically saying (unless its to win the game or something) that you should never kick a field goal if you are within the 7 yard line.
It was 4th and goal on the two yard line, wasn't it?
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