Dolphin fans take on the latest offer by the Chiefs

Stinger · 11:50 PM

What the Dolphins fans think of King Carl

and his low ball tatics on Pat Surtain.

http://www.finheaven.com/boardvb2/sh...8&page=1&pp=15

nychief · 03-29-2005, 10:33 PM

I tried to read that... almost as mind numbing as some of us over here....

Pants · 03-29-2005, 11:05 PM

lol, they are hatin' on us.

SoCalRaider · 03-29-2005, 11:06 PM

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

Pants · 03-29-2005, 11:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

The Chiefs also know the Phins don't want to spend that kind of money on Surtain.

KCJake · 03-29-2005, 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Metrolike

The Chiefs also know the Phins don't want to spend that kind of money on Surtain.

Exactly! The Chiefs are low-balling the Dolphins right now. No reason for the Chiefs to jump right in and give up their 2nd round pick. Not right now. In two weeks maybe, but not now.

KCChiefsMan · 03-30-2005, 01:05 AM

"Oh hell know!!! That is not value at all. Keep him unless we get a 2nd"

they seem like a smart group

03-29-2005, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

Assured? Only if they don't sign any other quality UFA.

The only thing the Dolphins are assured of if they keep Surtain is a helluva salary to absorb while the team is going nowhere in 2005 and stunting the growth of their current nickel CB for another year.

PunkinDrublic · 03-29-2005, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

Sorry we don't have the track record for free agent busts like you do. How's that Warren Sapp trade working for you? Not to mention Kerry off the wagon Collins that was grand slam on your teams part.

SoCalRaider · 03-29-2005, 11:15 PM

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Sorry we don't have the track record for free agent busts like you do.

That might also be because you have not track record of free agent signings, playoff wins, or Super Bowl appearances. What's your point?

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

How's that Warren Sapp trade working for you?

What Sapp trade?

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Originally Posted by PunkinDrublic

Not to mention Kerry off the wagon Collins that was grand slam on your teams part.

You mean Kerry I have as many Super Bowl appearances as the entire KC Chiefs organization Collins.

03-29-2005, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

That might also be because you have not track record of free agent signings, playoff wins, or Super Bowl appearances. What's your point?

What Sapp trade?

You mean Kerry I have as many Super Bowl appearances as the entire KC Chiefs organization Collins.

as usual...living off past glory again huh

PunkinDrublic · 03-29-2005, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

That might also be because you have not track record of free agent signings, playoff wins, or Super Bowl appearances. What's your point?

What Sapp trade?

You mean Kerry I have as many Super Bowl appearances as the entire KC Chiefs organization Collins.

If Collins had anything left don't you think the Giants would have held on to him?

FA the point is Sapp is a bust.

I wouldn't be bragging about that pathetic super bowl appearence I would rather the Chiefs stay home than get embarassed like the faiders did. Gruden was smart to leave because he knew how pathetic your organization really is.

**Rausch** · 03-29-2005, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

That might also be because you have not track record of free agent signings, playoff wins, or Super Bowl appearances. What's your point?

Odd that a fan of a team that's had the most recent sodomization in recent superbol memory brings up failure.

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

What Sapp trade?

The one where you traded production at the DT position for Sapp...

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

You mean Kerry I have as many Super Bowl appearances as the entire KC Chiefs organization Collins.

Unlike Collins, Dick Vermeil, Al Saunders, Priest Holmes, and Trent Green have actually been on superbowl winning teams.

whoman69 · 03-30-2005, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SoCalRaider

Sorry but the Chiefs FO has completely lost it. If the Fins hang onto Surtain this year, they're pretty much assured of getting a compensatory 3rd rounder when they lose him as a FA a year from now... yet the Chiefs FO thinks the Fins are dumb enough to deal him for a 4th... No wonder you guys can't get any free agents in here.

I think you missed the part of the article when it said that the 4th is the highest offer they have received. It would be idiotic for us to bump straight from a 4th to a 2nd. We have plenty of 2nd day picks to use.
If we do what most here want to do, it would be as idiotic as a person at an auction raising the bid price from $10K to $100K.
Saban is going to have a poor team, you can't just go from dud to top of the heap that quickly with as many holes as they have. His only hope is to get picks and put them into the lineup to get them ready. If a 4th is the highest they have, well then asking for a 2nd is miles apart. He is going to have to take what he is given. Its ridiculous to pay a superstar athlete on a bad team. They will drive their salaries down this year so they can afford a push later when they are ready.

RedNFeisty · 03-30-2005, 08:40 AM

"If" Surtain can come in a make an impact from the start, what is the problem giving up a second rounder? It's not like Carl is good at drafting anyway, right?

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