Chiefs We gave up on the run game too early.

Chiefless · 11-15-2010, 08:56 AM

I'm afraid the days of big rushing totals is over until the Chiefs find a consistent counter to stacked lines and rush-bitzes.

SenselessChiefsFan · 11-16-2010, 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefless

I'm afraid the days of big rushing totals is over until the Chiefs find a consistent counter to stacked lines and rush-bitzes.

It is no coincidence that the Chiefs struggles in the run game have come while McCluster has been out. This isn't to excuse their inefficiency. Any team should overcome the loss of any single player.

But, it has magnified just how over-matched the offensive line is still. Add in Waters and Lilja being less than 100%, and it is not surprising.

Guys forget that defenses get stretched vertically AND horizontally. McCluster does a good job of spreading defenses horizontally.

The Chiefs are in the second year of the program. Todd Haley was honest the entire time when he said the Chiefs 'aren't' a good team yet.

Extra Point · 11-15-2010, 08:56 AM

Well, at least you care about something! (From one 51 year old dumbass to another.)

MMXcalibur · 11-15-2010, 08:56 AM

I seem to recall a lot of "run, run, pass" series when we were only down 7-0. Charles wasn't doing anything and Jones was doing even less than that. The entire game, our running game just wasn't working as it was in the past.

KC native · 11-15-2010, 08:58 AM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

I seem to recall a lot of "run, run, pass" series when we were only down 7-0. Charles wasn't doing anything and Jones was doing even less than that. The entire game, our running game just wasn't working as it was in the past.

Yes, and it won't work until Mark shows he can do something with his arm.

**TimeForWasp** · 11-15-2010, 09:10 AM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

I seem to recall a lot of "run, run, pass" series when we were only down 7-0. Charles wasn't doing anything and Jones was doing even less than that. The entire game, our running game just wasn't working as it was in the past.

my point is we should have stuck with it, even when we were down by 21. I think the tide would have turned. We let ourselves get out of our own comfort zone too early. I don 't know how many runs we actually had in the game, but it should have been alot more. We gave up on it too early. On another point , I would like to see more of Battle. He has heart. I think he would do more for us than Jones.

KC native · 11-15-2010, 09:21 AM

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my point is we should have stuck with it, even when we were down by 21. I think the tide would have turned. We let ourselves get out of our own comfort zone too early. I don 't know how many runs we actually had in the game, but it should have been alot more. We gave up on it too early. On another point , I would like to see more of Battle. He has heart. I think he would do more for us than Jones.

You are ****ing nuts. More Battle? As lackluster as TJ has been in the last few games, he is still head and shoulders above Battle.

**TimeForWasp** · 11-15-2010, 09:34 AM

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You are ****ing nuts. More Battle? As lackluster as TJ has been in the last few games, he is still head and shoulders above Battle.

Not sure how you can make a sure judgment on that. Battle has not been given alot of chance, but he gives me a gut feeling and he is a hell of alot younger than Jones. I don't dislike jones and I actually was hoping Battle would make the team. There is something about Battle that I like and I have a feeling that if he does not get a decent chance here, he will blossom on another team. i would rather see it happen here. My gut feeling is that he is similar to the bus, and I would like to see him beat up on some opposing defenses.

Sully · 11-15-2010, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by KCtotheSB

I seem to recall a lot of "run, run, pass" series when we were only down 7-0. Charles wasn't doing anything and Jones was doing even less than that. The entire game, our running game just wasn't working as it was in the past.

A lot of run, run, pass series before it was more than 7-0?
Wasn't that two series?

Chiefnj2 · 11-15-2010, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Sully

A lot of run, run, pass series before it was more than 7-0?
Wasn't that two series?

Actually, after one KC possession, it was 14-0.

Sully · 11-15-2010, 10:34 AM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj2

Actually, after one KC possession, it was 14-0.

Corrected, I stand!

jd1020 · 11-15-2010, 11:29 AM

When the Chiefs are behind because their defense cant stop a peewee team and the run is getting stuffed its almost a gaurenteed loss. You cant count on Cassel to sustain drives to ice the opposing teams offense and give your D a rest. Weis/Haley just need to come up with ways to get the ball in the hands of their best offensive player (Charles) when the Oline cant create a hole. They wanted to go down field every pass and as soon as a pass rush comes within 5 yards of Cassel he stutter steps backwards and sidearms a pass into the abyss. Or he'll leave the box and take a sack.

Chiefnj2 · 11-15-2010, 09:04 AM

They were only averaging 2.5 yards per carry in the first half of the game. Plus, they were down 28 points. The run game was toast and useless.

Garcia Bronco · 11-15-2010, 09:35 AM

I don't think so. Your run game was getting smashed. Then you were down 21-0 and had to score.

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