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What was the setup of Gunther's Falcon Defense
Was the baseset 3-4 or 4-3, I say it was 3-4.
Wasn't this the depth chart? DE Vaughn Booker DT Joe Phillips DE Dan Williams FL DerricK Thomas LB Wayne Simmons LB Donnie Edwards LB Anthony Davis CB James Hasty CB Dale Carter SS Reggie Tongue FS Jerome Woods |
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I'm pretty sure it was a Base 3-4 defense but DT would line up at Rush End a lot of the time on passing downs..
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So was DT more of a DE or an outside linebacker??
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I didn't remember Dan Williams being there in that situation, but I don't know who was.
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I think alittle more of a DE. If I recall wasn't DT hurt that year as well.
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Thats why they called it "Falcon".. because he wasn't really a DE or an OLB.. "Tweener" would be a good name now
BTW.. I've wondered what it would look like to run that defense with Stills as Falcon.. I mean.. he looked damn good in the Pro Bowl at End, but he's a little light in the @ss to play End all game.. |
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In '98 though, we signed Chester to be a 4-3 DT, and I think Browning missed the year with injury, while D. Williams was holding out, so Derrick returned to full-time DE. I think he was best as a 3-4 OLB like he was in 1990 when he had 20 sacks. |
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Williams lined up inside Thomas, even though he was listed as a DE. Thomas lined up in a 3-point stance like a DE and did nothing but rush the QB. This use of a LB make it look like a 3-4, but in reality it's not, because of what's going on BEHIND the linemen.
Thomas was, in effect, a defensive end, not a linebacker. Wayne Simmons lined up at SSLB, over the TE, even though Thomas also often lined up on the strong side of the defense. That's why, when Thomas was injured, we used Pellom McDaniel, a true DE at Falcon, instead of someone like Simmons. |
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OK, that made no sense.
My post on the other thread was much more succint and easy to understand. The reason it looks like a 3-4 is because DT was lining up outside and rushing the passer with 3 other down linemen. The reason it was a 4-3 is because Wayne Simmons was lining up as a 4-3 SSLB. |
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Well...
i think it was more a 4-3 b/c you never saw DT in pass coverage. His job was to crash the backfield and blow up plays behind the line of scrimmage whether it was a run or pass. |
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