Morton & Kennison having 1000 yd seasons??!!! Tony G having a career year??!!!

Kylo Ren · 03:07 PM

Morton needs to average 54.6 yds per game to get 1000 yds this season, which is about average for his career. He's on pace for 1057 yds. His average is 14.0 yds per catch, which it's been his entire career. He's on pace for 76 catches, which, once again is about average for his career. He's due for 3 TD's this season, which is also average for his career. It's taken him 3 seasons in KC to do it, but is JM now the WR that we expected when we signed him? What do you make of these numbers? What do you think is JM's future in KC? Isn't 1000 yds the benchmark for a good WR season? If so, isn't Morton having a good season? Etc., etc., etc. ............. Discuss.
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1223

Here are Kennison's numbers. All of his numbers are right on average, or in some cases above average compared to his career. I ask the exact same questions in regards to EK. Kennison needs 77 yds per game to get to 1000 yds this season. That is unlikely because his average this season is 56 yds per game. He's on pace for: 897 yds, 51 catches, 4 TDs, 17.6 yds per catch (best of his career). All of these are average for his career. Morton's career has been a little more consistant. Where as Kennison's career has been up and down from season to season.
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1296

Aren't we getting, this season, exactly what we paid for? I'm neither for nor against JM or EK, I'm just asking the questions. Should we be so critical of these guys? I don't know. FYI -- EK is 31 years old and JM is 33 years old.

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Just for fun, I ran the numbers on Tony Gonzalez. He's on pace for a career year. I had no idea he was having a career year!! Did you know TG has missed only ONE game ('99) in 8 seasons / 122 games??
http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12400

On pace for:
1219 yard (best of his career)
13.1 yd average (bohc)
93 catches (bohc)
19 rec for 20+ yds (bohc)
7 TDs

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So, do we need to draft a WR in the 1st round or pick a big time WR in free agency? Or are we OK for one more season with JM, EK and TG, while we focus on defense?

**alpha_omega** · 12-03-2004, 02:54 PM

Interesting...wishin we were 9-2

Mr. Laz · 12-03-2004, 03:00 PM

i've said it time and time again...

EK and JM are solid wide receivers and aren't not THE problem

could we use a True #1 type guy? ..... yes

Johnny morton is not paid like #1 type guy either imo

even the best wide receivers drop passes

our problem is defense and a general lack of focus and intensity

our coaching staff isn't exactly stellar either consider our seeming lack of preparation for some things.

beer bacon · 12-03-2004, 03:03 PM

And yet our season is in the shitter because of horrible defense and unclutch offense.

Kclee · 12-03-2004, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lazarus

EK and JM are solid wide receivers and aren't not THE problem.

So are you saying they are the problem now? Make up your mind.

Mr. Laz · 12-03-2004, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kclee

So are you saying they are the problem now? Make up your mind

hehe

|Zach| · 12-03-2004, 02:59 PM

I would have no problem having JM back on this team....I am done with Kennison though. The downfield fumbles and the drops are not good enough anymore.

Kylo Ren · 12-03-2004, 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ZachKC

I would have no problem having JM back on this team....I am done with Kennison though. The downfield fumbles and the drops are not good enough anymore.

They've both had a game changing downfield fumble and a few drops IMHO.

Chiefs Pantalones · 12-03-2004, 03:11 PM

The numbers are good, but what the stats don't say is how they do in pressure situations. When the game is in its most critical period they are inconsistent. Heck, that's the Chiefs organization for 30+ years -- inconsistent.

We have to upgrade both WRs. Realistically, we're only looking at one, possibly.

jiveturkey · 12-03-2004, 03:14 PM

Not throwing 6 passes to Priest every game should have this effect.

This might also explain the decrease in Trent's rating. Less safe passes to Priest.

Just a theroy.

Kylo Ren · 12-03-2004, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jiveturkey

Not throwing 6 passes to Priest every game should have this effect.

This might also explain the decrease in Trent's rating. Less safe passes to Priest.

Just a theroy.

Good point. Overall, taking the good with the bad, do you think this is better? Less passes to Priest, but more passes to the WR is good or bad in your opinion?

KingPriest2 · 12-03-2004, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiveturkey

Not throwing 6 passes to Priest every game should have this effect.

This might also explain the decrease in Trent's rating. Less safe passes to Priest.

Just a theroy.

Actually that theory is incorrect. Green is having the best season of his career. He is throwing 66.4 percent by far his best by 3 percent. His rating is higher then the last two years. His YPA is 8.2 his best of his career as a full time starter. He is on pace to throw more then 4400 yards. His best of his career.

But he is being sacked more this year. Also they are not throwing the screens as much. That was our bread and butter. This is one reason why our offense has choked when needed. Priest is getting only 2 catches a game. But the last 4 games he played he was getting between 3 and 4. Our record 2 and 2 the last game being Tampa. If he was in that game more then likely we would have won.

The they that is hurting Trent is not having Priest he is prone to throw more INTs like in 2001.

Think about it.

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Calcountry · 12-03-2004, 04:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jiveturkey

Not throwing 6 passes to Priest every game should have this effect.

This might also explain the decrease in Trent's rating. Less safe passes to Priest.

Just a theroy.

Great sure handed Tight End, 6 million dollars.

o.k. WR's 3 million dollars

Better than average quarterback 5 million dollars.

Having a healthy running back capable of instilling fear in the opposing defense on a play action pass: PRICELESS

**alanm** · 12-04-2004, 12:52 AM

Kennison is nowhere near as fast as he used to be. He's not the deep threat that he had been. I wish DV would throw Parker out into the fray to see what he can do. Parker has 4.3 speed and he's standing on the sidelines.

And come to think of it Morton has been having a pretty good year as the #2. He's really made some great catches. He really doesn't deserve the shit he's been catching this year. And then there's Hall. Outside of one KR for the TD last week he hasn't done squat as the Z receiver. Does he even have a catch and run longer than 22-25 yrds? I can't recall any.

Hammock Parties · 12-04-2004, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by alanm

Kennison is nowhere near as fast as he used to be. He's not the deep threat that he had been.

Sorry, that's BS. Kennison is averaging more yards per catch right now that at any other time during his KC Chief career.

He would be a stone cold lock to get 1,000 yards if he hadn't missed 2 3/4 games.

Next year I'm going to make the bastard my Adopt-A-Chief. Hey, adopting Morton turned him into the WR we thought he was supposed to be.

12-03-2004, 02:50 PM	Topic Starter
Kylo Ren Grandson of Darth Vader Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Starkiller Base Casino cash: $10015175	Morton & Kennison having 1000 yd seasons??!!! Tony G having a career year??!!! Morton needs to average 54.6 yds per game to get 1000 yds this season, which is about average for his career. He's on pace for 1057 yds. His average is 14.0 yds per catch, which it's been his entire career. He's on pace for 76 catches, which, once again is about average for his career. He's due for 3 TD's this season, which is also average for his career. It's taken him 3 seasons in KC to do it, but is JM now the WR that we expected when we signed him? What do you make of these numbers? What do you think is JM's future in KC? Isn't 1000 yds the benchmark for a good WR season? If so, isn't Morton having a good season? Etc., etc., etc. ............. Discuss. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1223 Here are Kennison's numbers. All of his numbers are right on average, or in some cases above average compared to his career. I ask the exact same questions in regards to EK. Kennison needs 77 yds per game to get to 1000 yds this season. That is unlikely because his average this season is 56 yds per game. He's on pace for: 897 yds, 51 catches, 4 TDs, 17.6 yds per catch (best of his career). All of these are average for his career. Morton's career has been a little more consistant. Where as Kennison's career has been up and down from season to season. http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/1296 Aren't we getting, this season, exactly what we paid for? I'm neither for nor against JM or EK, I'm just asking the questions. Should we be so critical of these guys? I don't know. FYI -- EK is 31 years old and JM is 33 years old. ============= Just for fun, I ran the numbers on Tony Gonzalez. He's on pace for a career year. I had no idea he was having a career year!! Did you know TG has missed only ONE game ('99) in 8 seasons / 122 games?? http://www.nfl.com/players/playerpage/12400 On pace for: 1219 yard (best of his career) 13.1 yd average (bohc) 93 catches (bohc) 19 rec for 20+ yds (bohc) 7 TDs ======================== So, do we need to draft a WR in the 1st round or pick a big time WR in free agency? Or are we OK for one more season with JM, EK and TG, while we focus on defense? Last edited by Kylo Ren; 12-03-2004 at 03:07 PM..
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12-03-2004, 03:00 PM	#3
Mr. Laz Don't Tease Me Join Date: Dec 2000 Location: KS Casino cash: $11047037	i've said it time and time again... EK and JM are solid wide receivers and aren't not THE problem could we use a True #1 type guy? ..... yes Johnny morton is not paid like #1 type guy either imo even the best wide receivers drop passes our problem is defense and a general lack of focus and intensity our coaching staff isn't exactly stellar either consider our seeming lack of preparation for some things. __________________
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12-03-2004, 02:59 PM	#7
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12-04-2004, 12:52 AM	#14
alanm Feeling Victorian Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Nebraska/Wyoming/Colorado Casino cash: $1356436	Kennison is nowhere near as fast as he used to be. He's not the deep threat that he had been. I wish DV would throw Parker out into the fray to see what he can do. Parker has 4.3 speed and he's standing on the sidelines. And come to think of it Morton has been having a pretty good year as the #2. He's really made some great catches. He really doesn't deserve the shit he's been catching this year. And then there's Hall. Outside of one KR for the TD last week he hasn't done squat as the Z receiver. Does he even have a catch and run longer than 22-25 yrds? I can't recall any.
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