A Question for all that want DE with 1st pick

Kclee · 12-23-2004, 11:14 AM

I must be missing something and need enlightenment. I think Allen starts and Holliday will be gone. And didn't we just sign Hicks? The coaches love him. Believe me, I would love to draft stud DE first, but do you think they will bench Hicks? Or even bench Allen, who will most likely break DT's sack record? I guess I just don't see the coaches doing that. But alot of people are thinking DE, so enlighten me please.

HC_Chief · 12-23-2004, 11:16 AM

RDE is where they want us to go. Replace Hicks with a more aggressive pass-rusher.

Heck, we could have done that THIS year... instead of resigning Hicks we could have kept Truluck.

el borracho · 12-23-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

RDE is where they want us to go. Replace Hicks with a more aggressive pass-rusher.

Heck, we could have done that THIS year... instead of resigning Hicks we could have kept Truluck.

Yep.

Cannibal · 12-23-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

RDE is where they want us to go. Replace Hicks with a more aggressive pass-rusher.

Heck, we could have done that THIS year... instead of resigning Hicks we could have kept Truluck.

ITA.

We need to draft a stud pass rusher and then try to sign a decent FA corner and draft a LB in 2nd. (If there any good pass rushers at our spot in the draft.)

Drafting a corner would be a bad idea IMO. I don't care how good they are in college, they will struggle at this level for a year or two at least. After next year the window slams shut.

12-23-2004, 11:16 AM

Uh - Hicks blows?

Does that answer your question?

el borracho · 12-23-2004, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Phobia

Uh - Hicks blows?

Does that answer your question?

Yepper.

htismaqe · 12-23-2004, 11:18 AM

Hicks needs to be replaced, period.

But alas, you're probably right. The coaching staff cares more about warm fuzzies than wins...

Kclee · 12-23-2004, 11:23 AM

Hicks does blow. But why would they re-sign him? I was hoping they wouldn't. If he is cap friendly to cut, then maybe they will draft a DE. I just think the coaches love him way too much to bench him, even more so now since he just signed a new contract. Mistake? What mistake? He's the one with the motor always running. It just seems to be stuck in park.

HC_Chief · 12-23-2004, 11:27 AM

IMO this team has done a lot of shitting in one hand and wishing in the other, when it comes to personnel on D and at WR.

It's pretty obvious which hand filled up first....

tk13 · 12-23-2004, 02:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Kclee

Hicks does blow. But why would they re-sign him? I was hoping they wouldn't.

I don't think that was their original plan. The plan was to have Grant Wistrom come in and sign him, and Seattle knew this... so when he made that first visit to Seattle before coming to KC, Seattle offered him a ridiculous contract that he knew he couldn't turn down, and we lost out. Hicks went and visited with Arizona, then came back and we signed him.

el borracho · 12-23-2004, 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

Hicks needs to be replaced, period.

Yep.

Alphaman · 12-23-2004, 11:19 AM

At a minimum, Holliday must be replaced as part of the normal rotation. That means a DE in the 1st or 2nd round (unless we get one in free agency).

Given where we may be drafting now, DE may be the best value on the board (or it could be CB). Erasmus James or Spears might be on the board when we draft. Of course Carlos Rogers or the CB from Michigan may be as well.

In a nutshell, we need to get 2 CBs, 2 LBs, and 1 DE in Free Agency and the 1st 2 rounds of the draft. Which happens where is really irrelavent to me.

el borracho · 12-23-2004, 12:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Alphaman

At a minimum, Holliday must be replaced as part of the normal rotation. That means a DE in the 1st or 2nd round (unless we get one in free agency).

Given where we may be drafting now, DE may be the best value on the board (or it could be CB). Erasmus James or Spears might be on the board when we draft. Of course Carlos Rogers or the CB from Michigan may be as well.

In a nutshell, we need to get 2 CBs, 2 LBs, and 1 DE in Free Agency and the 1st 2 rounds of the draft. Which happens where is really irrelavent to me.

Again, yep.

philfree · 12-23-2004, 11:20 AM

Allen has RDE locked up and Hicks probably has LDE locked up to start the season but the way we rotate linemen we could draft a DE who has more pass rush then Hicks and play him on 3rd downs until he's ready to start. IMO our biggest problem is 3rd down. If we could improve our 3rd down pass rush it should help our D a bunch.

PhilFree

shaneo69 · 12-23-2004, 11:35 AM

I am holding out hope that Wilkerson will step up and develop into a starter. He has shown some pass rush ability (at least more than Hicks, IMO). But I think we just need to draft the best defensive player available, as long as it's not another DT.

12-23-2004, 11:14 AM	Topic Starter
Kclee Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $10014147	A Question for all that want DE with 1st pick I must be missing something and need enlightenment. I think Allen starts and Holliday will be gone. And didn't we just sign Hicks? The coaches love him. Believe me, I would love to draft stud DE first, but do you think they will bench Hicks? Or even bench Allen, who will most likely break DT's sack record? I guess I just don't see the coaches doing that. But alot of people are thinking DE, so enlighten me please.
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12-23-2004, 11:16 AM	#2
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	RDE is where they want us to go. Replace Hicks with a more aggressive pass-rusher. Heck, we could have done that THIS year... instead of resigning Hicks we could have kept Truluck. __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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12-23-2004, 11:16 AM	#5
Phobia Guest Casino cash: $	Uh - Hicks blows? Does that answer your question?
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12-23-2004, 11:18 AM	#7
htismaqe 'Tis my eye! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Chiefsplanet Casino cash: $8179900	Hicks needs to be replaced, period. But alas, you're probably right. The coaching staff cares more about warm fuzzies than wins...
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12-23-2004, 11:23 AM	#8
Kclee Veteran Join Date: Mar 2002 Casino cash: $10014147	Hicks does blow. But why would they re-sign him? I was hoping they wouldn't. If he is cap friendly to cut, then maybe they will draft a DE. I just think the coaches love him way too much to bench him, even more so now since he just signed a new contract. Mistake? What mistake? He's the one with the motor always running. It just seems to be stuck in park. __________________ If any man says he hates war more than I do, he better have a knife, that's all I have to say.
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12-23-2004, 11:27 AM	#9
HC_Chief That's just f***in' stupid Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: suburbia Casino cash: $3687107	IMO this team has done a lot of shitting in one hand and wishing in the other, when it comes to personnel on D and at WR. It's pretty obvious which hand filled up first.... __________________ "Gentlemen, you can't fight in here, this is the war room!"
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12-23-2004, 11:19 AM	#12
Alphaman Veteran Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Austin, TX, USA Casino cash: $10004900	At a minimum, Holliday must be replaced as part of the normal rotation. That means a DE in the 1st or 2nd round (unless we get one in free agency). Given where we may be drafting now, DE may be the best value on the board (or it could be CB). Erasmus James or Spears might be on the board when we draft. Of course Carlos Rogers or the CB from Michigan may be as well. In a nutshell, we need to get 2 CBs, 2 LBs, and 1 DE in Free Agency and the 1st 2 rounds of the draft. Which happens where is really irrelavent to me.
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12-23-2004, 11:20 AM	#14
philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $-1993802	Allen has RDE locked up and Hicks probably has LDE locked up to start the season but the way we rotate linemen we could draft a DE who has more pass rush then Hicks and play him on 3rd downs until he's ready to start. IMO our biggest problem is 3rd down. If we could improve our 3rd down pass rush it should help our D a bunch. PhilFree __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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12-23-2004, 11:35 AM	#15
shaneo69 Smug Weasel Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Bleachers at Busch Casino cash: $10004900	I am holding out hope that Wilkerson will step up and develop into a starter. He has shown some pass rush ability (at least more than Hicks, IMO). But I think we just need to draft the best defensive player available, as long as it's not another DT.
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