Free agents(would they consider the chiefs)

Big Chief Homer · 01-01-2005, 05:58 PM

My wife and I were discussing the thread about CP saying he would go after free agents this year.

we came to the question of Would free agents conider the chiefs.I mean quality top tier free agents.

not because of money or cp or the horrid defense,but because of the coaching situation.DV has said he will be back next year,but what about after that.Would they inform the players ahead of time about Dv's replacment if they knew.(as in Saunder)

Ive heard players before say they like stability before they sign a long contract.The chiefs dont have that after next year.With CP and Dv's contracts running out and Mr. Hunt getting up there in age.

Can we get a few top tier F/A even if CP is willing to pay.

Deberg_1990 · 01-01-2005, 06:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Chief Homer

My wife and I were discussing the thread about CP saying he would go after free agents this year.

we came to the question of Would free agents conider the chiefs.I mean quality top tier free agents.

not because of money or cp or the horrid defense,but because of the coaching situation.DV has said he will be back next year,but what about after that.Would they inform the players ahead of time about Dv's replacment if they knew.(as in Saunder)

Ive heard players before say they like stability before they sign a long contract.The chiefs dont have that after next year.With CP and Dv's contracts running out and Mr. Hunt getting up there in age.

Can we get a few top tier F/A even if CP is willing to pay.

Most Free Agents are all about the money. Sad but true.

Mr. Laz · 01-01-2005, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Most Free Agents are all about the money. Sad but true.

except for when they dont come here... then it's just because they didnt want to come here.

according to the genious lexicon people

Logical · 01-01-2005, 06:26 PM

If I was a free agent you would have to give me ridiculous amounts of money to come and play for the Carl Peterson led Chiefs. Because, you know that winning a championship is not important to the team.

Big Chief Homer · 01-01-2005, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

If I was a free agent you would have to give me ridiculous amounts of money to come and play for the Carl Peterson led Chiefs. Because, you know that winning a championship is not important to the team.

thats what i was afraid of

**Baby Lee** · 01-01-2005, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

If I was a free agent you would have to give me ridiculous amounts of money to come and play for the Carl Peterson led Chiefs. Because, you know that winning a championship is not important to the team.

teh dumb.

bricks · 01-01-2005, 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

If I was a free agent you would have to give me ridiculous amounts of money to come and play for the Carl Peterson led Chiefs. Because, you know that winning a championship is not important to the team.

that's ridiculous.

Logical · 01-01-2005, 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by bricks

that's ridiculous.

Really? Would you if you were a premier free agent go to Cincinatti? Same difference perenial losers that never play in the Super Bowl. In fact based on history your odds are better with Cinci since they have have gone twice in the last 22 years vs the Chiefs not having been in 35 years.

milkman · 01-01-2005, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Vlad Logicslav

If I was a free agent you would have to give me ridiculous amounts of money to come and play for the Carl Peterson led Chiefs. Because, you know that winning a championship is not important to the team.

I disagree.
I think winning is important to the team.
I just don't think that winning at any cost is important.

They want to win, but they just want to do it on the cheap.

With that in mind, how could any FA ask for, and expect to get rediculous amounts of money from Lamar and Carl.

2bikemike · 01-01-2005, 11:47 PM

IMHO all this talk about the HMFIC not wanting to win a championship is total BS. They stand to reap a hell of a lot more rewards by winning a championship then by bein perrenial also rans. Shit Chiefs gear would be flying off the shelf all over the fugging country if they won the big one.

As far as FA go 2 criteria will get them to sign. Knowledge that this team is close to competing for the SB and like others have said a large stack of cash.

Now I agree that CP and Lamar are not the biggest free spenders in the league but all those large bonus's are a freaking huge gamble. And they are just like credit cards. Sooner or later that monthly payment is gonna get bigger than you can handle. I don't want to see this team go through 4 year of pure crap to get the salary cap back under control.

It can be done on the cheap as New England has demonstrated but you gotta be damn smart about the players you choose. Something this organization has failed miserably at in the last few years.

bricks · 01-01-2005, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Most Free Agents are all about the money. Sad but true.

I'm under the impression, that, a great majority of unrestricted free-agent players pay visits to Kansas City, only to use us as a way of bait. to raise offers for their contracts, so that other teams are willing to pay more than our initial offer.

Alphaman · 01-01-2005, 07:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Big Chief Homer

My wife and I were discussing the thread about CP saying he would go after free agents this year.

we came to the question of Would free agents conider the chiefs.I mean quality top tier free agents.

not because of money or cp or the horrid defense,but because of the coaching situation.DV has said he will be back next year,but what about after that.Would they inform the players ahead of time about Dv's replacment if they knew.(as in Saunder)

Ive heard players before say they like stability before they sign a long contract.The chiefs dont have that after next year.With CP and Dv's contracts running out and Mr. Hunt getting up there in age.

Can we get a few top tier F/A even if CP is willing to pay.

If Carl puts top tier money on the table ANd can convince defensive players that he will add more players than just them, then players will come here. Vermeil and Gun are guys players love to play for. The league knows that if the Chiefs get some defensive talent they are a Superbowl contender. It comes down to signing bonus. BTW, that ain't Carl, that's Lamar.

Amnorix · 01-01-2005, 07:58 PM

99% of free agents will go wherever the most money is.

IMHO, the Chiefs are only a few pieces away from being REALLY good. This despite the fact that the AFC is BRUTAL. If I were a premier defensive free agent, and I thought CP and DV were commtted to upgrading the defense in order to complement the offense and win a title, I'd definitely be interested in going to KC.

Alphaman · 01-01-2005, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Amnorix

99% of free agents will go wherever the most money is.

IMHO, the Chiefs are only a few pieces away from being REALLY good. This despite the fact that the AFC is BRUTAL. If I were a premier defensive free agent, and I thought CP and DV were commtted to upgrading the defense in order to complement the offense and win a title, I'd definitely be interested in going to KC.

That's exactly what I was trying to say. With the way this offense scores points, defensive players will be interested. Carl's job will be two fold:

1) Put a competitive offer on the table
2) Convince them that he is committed to signing other players.

The belief around the league is that this defense is not 1 player away, so can't play the ego card. But we can play the "1 of the many improvements card"

Big Chief Homer · 01-01-2005, 08:28 PM

ok we have established the money and win factors,what about the lame duck coach factor.will someone come here and sign a long term contract with a coach and GM and not know who they will be playing for and what system they will be playing in.most players want a system they will flourish in.(ie priest coming in from Baltimore).All they get from DV and Carl is a one year promise.

01-01-2005, 05:58 PM	Topic Starter
Big Chief Homer Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: offseason hell Casino cash: $10009985	Free agents(would they consider the chiefs) My wife and I were discussing the thread about CP saying he would go after free agents this year. we came to the question of Would free agents conider the chiefs.I mean quality top tier free agents. not because of money or cp or the horrid defense,but because of the coaching situation.DV has said he will be back next year,but what about after that.Would they inform the players ahead of time about Dv's replacment if they knew.(as in Saunder) Ive heard players before say they like stability before they sign a long contract.The chiefs dont have that after next year.With CP and Dv's contracts running out and Mr. Hunt getting up there in age. Can we get a few top tier F/A even if CP is willing to pay.
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2bikemike Born to Ride Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: NWA Casino cash: $-994623	IMHO all this talk about the HMFIC not wanting to win a championship is total BS. They stand to reap a hell of a lot more rewards by winning a championship then by bein perrenial also rans. Shit Chiefs gear would be flying off the shelf all over the fugging country if they won the big one. As far as FA go 2 criteria will get them to sign. Knowledge that this team is close to competing for the SB and like others have said a large stack of cash. Now I agree that CP and Lamar are not the biggest free spenders in the league but all those large bonus's are a freaking huge gamble. And they are just like credit cards. Sooner or later that monthly payment is gonna get bigger than you can handle. I don't want to see this team go through 4 year of pure crap to get the salary cap back under control. It can be done on the cheap as New England has demonstrated but you gotta be damn smart about the players you choose. Something this organization has failed miserably at in the last few years.
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Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	99% of free agents will go wherever the most money is. IMHO, the Chiefs are only a few pieces away from being REALLY good. This despite the fact that the AFC is BRUTAL. If I were a premier defensive free agent, and I thought CP and DV were commtted to upgrading the defense in order to complement the offense and win a title, I'd definitely be interested in going to KC.
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01-01-2005, 08:28 PM	#15
Big Chief Homer Veteran Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: offseason hell Casino cash: $10009985	ok we have established the money and win factors,what about the lame duck coach factor.will someone come here and sign a long term contract with a coach and GM and not know who they will be playing for and what system they will be playing in.most players want a system they will flourish in.(ie priest coming in from Baltimore).All they get from DV and Carl is a one year promise. __________________ “I’m at the prime of my career right now. I’m living life and doing the best I can do right now. We have a really good team on paper, we just have to get the chemistry down and put it all together. There’s no ceiling for Derrick Johnson.”
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