Raiders Offense

bobbything · 09-08-2005, 10:33 PM

Sans the very first drive the Raiders offense looked average. All they did the rest of the game was chuck the ball downfield 40 yards. They picked up a few plays but, overall, their offense didn't look that great.

They completely abandoned the run and it looked like a video game with Collins just hurling the ball to Moss into triple coverage.

Maybe a little premature to pass too much judgement on their O just yet, however, they looked predictable. And if you're not going to run the ball, play action isn't really that effective.

Halfcan · 09-08-2005, 10:59 PM

Nope not premature-I think you pretty much covered it. They sucked. But their Defense looked pathetic as well. 4-12 will be their record.

philfree · 09-08-2005, 11:12 PM

Collins can't take the heat and as the game tonight progressed he looked worse and worse. If we get the win against then Jets I'll feel good going into Oakland. We gotta get that win though......we gotta get that win!

PhilFree

greg63 · 09-08-2005, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

Collins can't take the heat and as the game tonight progressed he looked worse and worse. If we get the win against then Jets I'll feel good going into Oakland. We gotta get that win though......we gotta get that win!

PhilFree

Regardless of the outcome against the Jets, I think we win the Oakland game.

philfree · 09-08-2005, 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by greg63

Regardless of the outcome against the Jets, I think we win the Oakland game.

I'll never take a division foe for granted cause those games are always tough. If we can't win at home I'll be hard pressed to feel sure about beating a division foe no matter how bad I think they are. If we lose this week then next week is a 50-50 proposition at best.

This is the last post I make about the Raiders until we are done with the Jets. This week it's the Jets and that's the biggest game of the season.

PhilFree

greg63 · 09-08-2005, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by philfree

I'll never take a division foe for granted cause those games are always tough. If we can't win at home I'll be hard pressed to feel sure about beating a division foe no matter how bad I think they are. If we lose this week then next week is a 50-50 proposition at best.

This is the last post I make about the Raiders until we are done with the Jets. This week it's the Jets and that's the biggest game of the season.

PhilFree

Agreed!

HolmeZz · 09-08-2005, 11:02 PM

First drive impressed me. Really all downhill for them after that. Run D played better than most expected I guess, but Brady had his way with their secondary. I don't see them being on par with us or Indy in terms of offense and their defense still has a ways to go.

09-08-2005, 11:30 PM

The PATS shut down the run and the Raiders don't run a sophisticated passing offense.

Dayze · 09-08-2005, 11:31 PM

I noticed Moss dropped a few when players were near him (less the big TD catch).....as always. Just proves the guy is a deep threat and that's it. If the ball is in the air, and defenders are closing it's as good as incomplete as he'll either A. quit on the play, or B. just flat out drop it.

We can only hope our d can get to Collins early enough to disrupt the deep ball.

Otherwise, we're toast.

Mecca · 09-08-2005, 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by dayzeofthenew

I noticed Moss dropped a few when players were near him (less the big TD catch).....as always. Just proves the guy is a deep threat and that's it. If the ball is in the air, and defenders are closing it's as good as incomplete as he'll either A. quit on the play, or B. just flat out drop it.

We can only hope our d can get to Collins early enough to disrupt the deep ball.

Otherwise, we're toast.

Harrison hit him early, let him know he was there. If you get Moss hearing footsteps thinking he's about to get drilled he will drop balls as he did tonight.

Miles · 09-08-2005, 11:38 PM

I agree with all of your observations but I think its still way too early to tell about their offense. Especially considering they were playing the patriots.

elvomito · 09-08-2005, 11:39 PM

the raiders will definately break down film and try to fix their mistakes.
they looked average against the pats, and the pats looked average against them

Red Dawg · 09-09-2005, 06:06 AM

Collins acted like Moss is the only target he has. He was pathedic.

Amnorix · 09-09-2005, 06:28 AM

The Faiders need to learn that it takes all 11 guys to win on offense. They were overly in love with their new weapon, Moss. They need to do a better job of using him as a decoy and having a more balanced attack overall.

vckcchiefs04 · 09-09-2005, 06:35 AM

Raiders = Same old Raiders !!!!

Penalties, A little offense, and fat slow pieces of human flesh along the defensive line...... yeah they did ok stopping the run last night, but Dillon was the one with the final knockout blows in the end of the game anyway! Sapp and Washington are just useless when the plays are not right at them. Sapp looks like he is trying his best to be bigger and slower than Washington..... he's freakin round! No shock though, they looked like the same old Faiders and their swiss cheese defense. Let's just hope our boys don't look similar on Sunday!!!! GO CHIEFS!!!!

09-08-2005, 10:33 PM	Topic Starter
bobbything Distributor of Pain Join Date: Nov 2004 Casino cash: $8644900	Raiders Offense Sans the very first drive the Raiders offense looked average. All they did the rest of the game was chuck the ball downfield 40 yards. They picked up a few plays but, overall, their offense didn't look that great. They completely abandoned the run and it looked like a video game with Collins just hurling the ball to Moss into triple coverage. Maybe a little premature to pass too much judgement on their O just yet, however, they looked predictable. And if you're not going to run the ball, play action isn't really that effective.
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09-08-2005, 10:59 PM	#2
Halfcan In Search of a Life Join Date: Aug 2005 Casino cash: $7327995	Nope not premature-I think you pretty much covered it. They sucked. But their Defense looked pathetic as well. 4-12 will be their record.
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09-08-2005, 11:12 PM	#3
philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $-1993802	Collins can't take the heat and as the game tonight progressed he looked worse and worse. If we get the win against then Jets I'll feel good going into Oakland. We gotta get that win though......we gotta get that win! PhilFree __________________ [/SIGPIC]
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09-08-2005, 11:02 PM	#7
HolmeZz i guess its bittersweet poetry Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: NeW HaVeN, CT Casino cash: $10004900	First drive impressed me. Really all downhill for them after that. Run D played better than most expected I guess, but Brady had his way with their secondary. I don't see them being on par with us or Indy in terms of offense and their defense still has a ways to go.
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09-08-2005, 11:30 PM	#8
chief99 Guest Casino cash: $	The PATS shut down the run and the Raiders don't run a sophisticated passing offense.
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09-08-2005, 11:31 PM	#9
Dayze Resident Glue Sniffer Join Date: Nov 2003 Casino cash: $1949358	I noticed Moss dropped a few when players were near him (less the big TD catch).....as always. Just proves the guy is a deep threat and that's it. If the ball is in the air, and defenders are closing it's as good as incomplete as he'll either A. quit on the play, or B. just flat out drop it. We can only hope our d can get to Collins early enough to disrupt the deep ball. Otherwise, we're toast. __________________ Life is 99% inspiration, 1% Perspiration, and 1% Attention to Detial. RIP & Godspeed: Saccoppo Lonewolf Ed Fire Me Boy
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09-08-2005, 11:38 PM	#11
Miles MVP Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: Dallas, TX Casino cash: $-1507600	I agree with all of your observations but I think its still way too early to tell about their offense. Especially considering they were playing the patriots.
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09-08-2005, 11:39 PM	#12
elvomito ☻☺ Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: ♠█♠ Casino cash: $10004900	the raiders will definately break down film and try to fix their mistakes. they looked average against the pats, and the pats looked average against them
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09-09-2005, 06:06 AM	#13
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09-09-2005, 06:28 AM	#14
Amnorix In BB I trust Join Date: May 2003 Location: Boston, Mass. Casino cash: $10029808	The Faiders need to learn that it takes all 11 guys to win on offense. They were overly in love with their new weapon, Moss. They need to do a better job of using him as a decoy and having a more balanced attack overall. __________________ "I love signature blocks on the Internet. I get to put whatever the hell I want in quotes, pick a pretend author, and bang, it's like he really said it." George Washington
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09-09-2005, 06:35 AM	#15
vckcchiefs04 Starter Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Kansas City Missouri Casino cash: $10004900	Raiders = Same old Raiders !!!! Penalties, A little offense, and fat slow pieces of human flesh along the defensive line...... yeah they did ok stopping the run last night, but Dillon was the one with the final knockout blows in the end of the game anyway! Sapp and Washington are just useless when the plays are not right at them. Sapp looks like he is trying his best to be bigger and slower than Washington..... he's freakin round! No shock though, they looked like the same old Faiders and their swiss cheese defense. Let's just hope our boys don't look similar on Sunday!!!! GO CHIEFS!!!! __________________ Go Larry Go!!!
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