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Old 04-14-2006, 11:21 AM   Topic Starter
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Which is more believable: God or Global Warming
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:24 AM   #2
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I want to vote "other".

This question is flawed.

Belief in God is based on a standard of faith.

Belief in Global Warming is based on a standard of reason/Science.

So they are apples and oranges IMO.
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:28 AM   #3
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I want to vote "other".

This question is flawed.

Belief in God is based on a standard of faith.

Belief in Global Warming is based on a standard of reason/Science.

So they are apples and oranges IMO.
shhhh ... that's part of the question

what do people consider the definition of believable

believable = faith based

or

believable = logic based
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:28 AM   #4
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I want to vote "other".

This question is flawed.

Belief in God is based on a standard of faith.

Belief in Global Warming is based on a standard of reason/Science.

So they are apples and oranges IMO.

Yeah the differance would be that....


Belief in science could help us find a way to reverse global warming, provide alternative fuel sorces, generaly make life better.


Belief in God, while compforting will provide......Nothing!! If God exists, I highly doubt that he will intervine to save us from destroying our planet.....kinda goes against the whole "free will" thing.


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Old 04-14-2006, 11:52 AM   #5
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I want to vote "other".

This question is flawed.

Belief in God is based on a standard of faith.

Belief in Global Warming is based on a standard of reason/Science.

So they are apples and oranges IMO.
If you are talking about human/CO2 caused Global Warming...

...there's more faith taken there than there is with God.
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:26 AM   #6
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I know there is a God.

I accept that Global warming is a fact....because its part of a climatic cycle. 50,000 years from now, people are going to be bitchin' because its gettin cold in here....
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:31 AM   #7
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I know there is a God.

I accept that Global warming is a fact....because its part of a climatic cycle. 50,000 years from now, people are going to be bitchin' because its gettin cold in here....

What he said...and it is also so minor that it is actually beneficial to mankind as it means a longer crop growing season and requires less fuel to create warmth in winter. We are simply still coming out of an ice age.
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:41 AM   #8
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No way evolution supports creation of complex creatures
etc.(it isn't random) So belief in a creator 'GOD' has to be a given.

Global warming, not enough past century stats to see that it is a complete trend or a cycle.

Fossil fuels etc are hurting but this may change and cycle.
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:47 AM   #9
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No way evolution supports creation of complex creatures
What about the missing link dinosaur they just found the other day?
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:56 AM   #10
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What about the missing link dinosaur they just found the other day?
The unproven issue with evolution is that, assuming the current rate of evolution as the rate over all time, and the assumption that our geological time scale is right, there simply isn't enough time for species to have evolved the way they did. Somewhere there was an acceleration of the evolutionary process or there was massive mutation over very few generations, neither of which we've found or proven. Not to say that it isn't the right theory, but it has holes just like anything else.
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Old 04-14-2006, 11:58 AM   #11
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The unproven issue with evolution is
compared to:

The unproven issues of religion...
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Old 04-14-2006, 12:01 PM   #12
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compared to:

The unproven issues of religion...
And ignorant people wonder where the perception of religious bigotry begins....
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Old 04-14-2006, 12:37 PM   #13
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The unproven issue with evolution is that, assuming the current rate of evolution as the rate over all time, and the assumption that our geological time scale is right, there simply isn't enough time for species to have evolved the way they did. Somewhere there was an acceleration of the evolutionary process or there was massive mutation over very few generations, neither of which we've found or proven. Not to say that it isn't the right theory, but it has holes just like anything else.

Really? I've never heard this before. Planet Earth is estimated at about 4.5 billion years old. Clearly alot of that timeframe was "lost" becuase the planet's atmosphere wasn't fully formed, and weather patterns didn't support life, etc.,

But I've never heard it said that there just hasn't been enough time for evolution to have occurred as it apparently has.

Besides, what other theory can one ascribe. Adam and Eve is just ludicrous.

http://www.nineplanets.org/earth.html
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Old 04-14-2006, 12:38 PM   #14
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This thread is premised on a false choice.

Most people I know believe in both.
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Old 04-14-2006, 12:41 PM   #15
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