Lee's Summit considering Pit Bull Ban

rageeumr · 06-15-2006, 09:19 AM

I can't believe this hasn't been talked about here... did I just miss it?

http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14824615.htm

Lee's Summit considers ban on pit bulls
The Kansas City Star

Lee's Summit is joining the list of cities talking about pit bulls.

Councilman Ed Cockrell on Wednesday proposed in a committee meeting that the breed be banned before the city has an incident.

Two other councilmen had mixed reactions. Councilman Ron Williams said people who already own pit bulls that behave should be allowed to keep those dogs, but he'd accept a ban on more pit bulls coming into the city. Randy Rhoads said a ban might create a false sense of security because other breeds are capable of seriously injuring people.

City Administrator Steve Lewis said Lee's Summit has ordinances to handle individually vicious dogs.

"There's a lot of debate about what's the best way to go," he said.

MOhillbilly · 06-15-2006, 09:36 AM

In my heart i still think bans are the best thing for the breed, but i also feel that the goverment should have no say in the confiscation of private property w/out real and solid probable cause.

Eleazar · 06-15-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

In my heart i still think bans are the best thing for the breed, but i also feel that the goverment should have no say in the confiscation of private property w/out real and solid probable cause.

Maybe they should grandfather in people who already have the dogs and are registered in the city.

How do they determine what is a Pit Bull anyways? Are they going to test the dog's DNA and see what %? Does the dog have to be 50% pit bull? Is 20% enough for the dog to be illegal?

Kylo Ren · 06-15-2006, 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by MOhillbilly

....... i still think bans are the best thing for the breed.......

Don't let Big Duddy hear you say that!

BIG_DADDY · 06-15-2006, 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Gunther_Fan

Don't let Bid Duddy hear you say that!

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**BigRedChief** · 06-15-2006, 09:52 AM

As a citizen of the lovely suburban bedroom city of Lee's Summit I have a dog in this fight.

On one hand the city is a very politically correct city but it has traditionally has had a political base being Republican and very conservative.

Seat Belts, Helmuts and proventive bans are all the same kind of thing. Trying to regulate the behaviour of its citizens. If we go down that path why is cigarettes and liquor sales never a part of the discussion?

BIG_DADDY · 06-15-2006, 10:01 AM

It's hitting all over Kansas and Missouri now. They had a meeting last night in Overland Park and there is another in Independence on the 19th. THey are selling fear at unpresidented levels right now.

kcfan88 · 06-15-2006, 10:55 AM

"Helmuts " what kind of dog breed is this? similar to the "hounds of hell"??

**Dartgod** · 06-15-2006, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by kcfan88

"Helmuts " what kind of dog breed is this? similar to the "hounds of hell"??

"Helmut" is the Chiefsplanet spelling for "helmet". Its not in the official lexicon, but it should be.

Pennywise · 06-15-2006, 11:06 AM

I bet the wild hogs where I'm from would love to see the Pits and Dogos go away.

**BigRedChief** · 06-15-2006, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

"Helmut" is the Chiefsplanet spelling for "helmet". Its not in the official lexicon, but it should be.

Chit if n00b is in then helmut should be too.

BIG_DADDY · 06-15-2006, 12:26 PM

Here is the information you need if you want to make a difference on the Lee's summit purposed legislation. I hope some of you are going to use this it only takes a few minutes.

Please write the council members in Lees Summit and ask that the consider strengthening their current breed neutral law, similar to Olathe or that they consider a very tough law like the Ryan Armstrong Law in Illinois.

Here are the addresses:
Mayor-Karen.Messerli@lees-summit.mo.us
Council
jhallam@mid-west.net
hofmann.kathy@gmail.com
rrhoads@mid-west.net (opposes)
rwilliam@mid-west.net (doesn't want ban, but might be o.k. with BSL)
jspallo@sbcglobal.net
cockrelled@yahoo.com (he has proposed the legislation)
jffreeman@att.net
Swearngin@gmail.com

Administrator
Steve.Lewis@lees-summit.mo.us

Abby York
Kansas City Dog Advocates

Here is the article

Lee's Summit considers ban on pit bulls
The Kansas City Star
Lee's Summit is joining the list of cities talking about pit bulls.
Councilman Ed Cockrell on Wednesday proposed in a committee meeting that the breed be banned before the city has an incident.
Two other councilmen had mixed reactions. Councilman Ron Williams said people who already own pit bulls that behave should be allowed to keep those dogs, but he'd accept a ban on more pit bulls coming into the city. Randy Rhoads said a ban might create a false sense of security because other breeds are capable of seriously injuring people.
City Administrator Steve Lewis said Lee's Summit has ordinances to handle individually vicious dogs.
"There's a lot of debate about what's the best way to go," he said.
| Russ Pulley, rpulley@kcstar.com.

CoMoChief · 06-15-2006, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by BigRedChief

As a citizen of the lovely suburban bedroom city of Lee's Summit I have a dog in this fight.

On one hand the city is a very politically correct city but it has traditionally has had a political base being Republican and very conservative.

Seat Belts, Helmuts and proventive bans are all the same kind of thing. Trying to regulate the behaviour of its citizens. If we go down that path why is cigarettes and liquor sales never a part of the discussion?

Because govt tried that already and it didnt work.

**Dartgod** · 06-15-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by rageeumr

Randy Rhoads said a ban might create a false sense of security because other breeds are capable of seriously injuring people.

Well then, for God's sake, let's just ban all dogs.

Eleazar · 06-15-2006, 09:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Dartgod

Well then, for God's sake, let's just ban all dogs.

We should just ban reeruns like that from speaking.

06-15-2006, 09:19 AM	Topic Starter
rageeumr Veteran Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: St. Louis :( Casino cash: $9989900	Lee's Summit considering Pit Bull Ban I can't believe this hasn't been talked about here... did I just miss it? http://www.kansascity.com/mld/kansascity/14824615.htm Lee's Summit considers ban on pit bulls The Kansas City Star Lee's Summit is joining the list of cities talking about pit bulls. Councilman Ed Cockrell on Wednesday proposed in a committee meeting that the breed be banned before the city has an incident. Two other councilmen had mixed reactions. Councilman Ron Williams said people who already own pit bulls that behave should be allowed to keep those dogs, but he'd accept a ban on more pit bulls coming into the city. Randy Rhoads said a ban might create a false sense of security because other breeds are capable of seriously injuring people. City Administrator Steve Lewis said Lee's Summit has ordinances to handle individually vicious dogs. "There's a lot of debate about what's the best way to go," he said.
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06-15-2006, 09:36 AM	#2
MOhillbilly Mama Tried Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Missouri Casino cash: $9949903	In my heart i still think bans are the best thing for the breed, but i also feel that the goverment should have no say in the confiscation of private property w/out real and solid probable cause. __________________ True Son of Liberty
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06-15-2006, 09:52 AM	#6
BigRedChief Has a particular set of skills Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: On the water Casino cash: $1618962 VARSITY	As a citizen of the lovely suburban bedroom city of Lee's Summit I have a dog in this fight. On one hand the city is a very politically correct city but it has traditionally has had a political base being Republican and very conservative. Seat Belts, Helmuts and proventive bans are all the same kind of thing. Trying to regulate the behaviour of its citizens. If we go down that path why is cigarettes and liquor sales never a part of the discussion? __________________ Mind you own damn business
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06-15-2006, 10:01 AM	#7
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $3978410	It's hitting all over Kansas and Missouri now. They had a meeting last night in Overland Park and there is another in Independence on the 19th. THey are selling fear at unpresidented levels right now. __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
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06-15-2006, 10:55 AM	#8
kcfan88 Starter Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Okinawa Casino cash: $10004900	"Helmuts " what kind of dog breed is this? similar to the "hounds of hell"??
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06-15-2006, 11:06 AM	#10
Pennywise pew pew madafakas Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Derry, Maine Casino cash: $574400	I bet the wild hogs where I'm from would love to see the Pits and Dogos go away.
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06-15-2006, 12:26 PM	#12
BIG_DADDY THE RED MENACE Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Texas Casino cash: $3978410	Here is the information you need if you want to make a difference on the Lee's summit purposed legislation. I hope some of you are going to use this it only takes a few minutes. Please write the council members in Lees Summit and ask that the consider strengthening their current breed neutral law, similar to Olathe or that they consider a very tough law like the Ryan Armstrong Law in Illinois. Here are the addresses: Mayor-Karen.Messerli@lees-summit.mo.us Council jhallam@mid-west.net hofmann.kathy@gmail.com rrhoads@mid-west.net (opposes) rwilliam@mid-west.net (doesn't want ban, but might be o.k. with BSL) jspallo@sbcglobal.net cockrelled@yahoo.com (he has proposed the legislation) jffreeman@att.net Swearngin@gmail.com Administrator Steve.Lewis@lees-summit.mo.us Abby York Kansas City Dog Advocates Here is the article Lee's Summit considers ban on pit bulls The Kansas City Star Lee's Summit is joining the list of cities talking about pit bulls. Councilman Ed Cockrell on Wednesday proposed in a committee meeting that the breed be banned before the city has an incident. Two other councilmen had mixed reactions. Councilman Ron Williams said people who already own pit bulls that behave should be allowed to keep those dogs, but he'd accept a ban on more pit bulls coming into the city. Randy Rhoads said a ban might create a false sense of security because other breeds are capable of seriously injuring people. City Administrator Steve Lewis said Lee's Summit has ordinances to handle individually vicious dogs. "There's a lot of debate about what's the best way to go," he said. \| Russ Pulley, rpulley@kcstar.com. __________________ The diabolical genius of Marxism-Socialism is that it provides the emotional and intellectual road map for autocrats to persuade millions of people to support their own enslavement to government. ~Mark Levin April 15, 2019
Posts: 32,438