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Old 12-24-2007, 01:44 PM   Topic Starter
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Colt Brennan in the 2nd round anyone?

If the QB position is such a big issue to some folks, why not draft Long, Ellis, or Dorsey in the 1st in they're available and look to snag Colt Brennan in the early 2nd round? Last time I checked he was slated to go Mid-2nd, somewhere around 50.

I've personally watched Brohm, Ryan, and Woodson, and they haven't impressed me any more than Colt Brennan has. He'd come a hell of lot cheaper than the other three would, and he has all of the same physical and mental tools as the others.

I understand the knock for his system QB play, but that doesn't change the fact that he is accurate, or that he is a proven winner and may bring a good mentality with him. If we're going to gamble on a QB with a first day pick, this isn't the year to pick a QB up in the 1st round.

A far from impressive class, but Brennan has been largely overlooked and under-valued, he could provide a young, cheap alternate, and competition.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:47 PM   #2
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Not the worst idea.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:47 PM   #3
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lets just develop croyle first
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:49 PM   #4
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I don't really care that he played in a passing system. If he's smart he can learn as well as some QB who played in a regular offense, it just might take a little longer. I think the only reason he was at Hawaii is because he robbed someone at Colorado or something. He's no Timmy Chang. He's got a strong arm and decent athletic ability, made some amazing passes in the games I saw. His release is a bit low but fast and I haven't seen Vince Young have that many problems with batted balls.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:51 PM   #5
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A better idea than drafting one in the first for sure. I want to give Croyle a chance, but I think Colt would be a good pick in the second if they want a QB. I've watched him play a lot, being a UH fan, and I think he is more than a system QB.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:49 PM   #6
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This is what I'll say. I like Colt Brennan more than most..he isn't the prospect a guy like Ryan is. But Brennan when you watch him does seem to have "it" he makes plays and does what it takes...

Also we can not rely on Croyle to where we say "OMG we can't take a QB" he's to injury prone to ever be relied upon.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:50 PM   #7
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Not a bad idea.

But I can only support that IF the Chiefs feel like he's the best guy.

Let's not forget that the #1 most important position on any team is the QB. So if you feel like you have a franchise QB early, you take him no matter what.

Plus this draft if deep in OT.
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:53 PM   #8
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Old 12-24-2007, 01:54 PM   #9
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Holmezz despises Brennan for some reason.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:12 PM   #10
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Holmezz despises Brennan for some reason.
There's not much to like. He's doesn't offer much in terms of physical gifts and he has absolutely zero experience running anything close to an NFL offense. He's a mediocre prospect at best who's gotten hype because he gets to put up numbers in Hawaii's system and anyone who wants to go on and on about his accuracy should probably get a better understanding of Hawaii's offense. It's a lot of short passes and option routes that are designed to make things as easy as possible on the quarterback. As far as reading a defense goes, all it requires is you recognizing the coverage at the line of scrimmage and then the receivers running the route accordingly.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:16 PM   #11
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There's not much to like. He's doesn't offer much in terms of physical gifts and he has absolutely zero experience running anything close to an NFL offense. He's a mediocre prospect at best who's gotten hype because he gets to put up numbers in Hawaii's system and anyone who wants to go on and on about his accuracy should probably get a better understanding of Hawaii's offense. It's a lot of short passes and option routes that are designed to make things as easy as possible on the quarterback. As far as reading a defense goes, all it requires is you recognizing the coverage at the line of scrimmage and then the receivers running the route accordingly.

Doesnt he always operate out of the shotgun as well? I dont think ive ever seen him take a snap under center?


I dont think any NFL team runs a Run and Shoot offense anymore.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:19 PM   #12
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Doesnt he always operate out of the shotgun as well? I dont think ive ever seen him take a snap under center?
Once in a blue moon and it's usually just to run the option. I can't recall ever seeing him play action pass.

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I dont think any NFL team runs a Run and Shoot offense anymore.
Not since the old Oilers I don't think.

And there's a reason it's not run in the NFL or by your major college programs.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:22 PM   #13
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And there's a reason it's not run in the NFL or by your major college programs.
The Oilers, Falcons and Lions ran it pretty successully back in the early 90's.


Im surprised no one has tried to revitalize it again lately?

Although a few teams run variations of it. The Pats go 4 and 5 wideouts frequently, but you have to have a hell of a pass blocking O-line to do that. Brady gets hit alot, but hes one tough SOB.
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Doesnt he always operate out of the shotgun as well? I dont think ive ever seen him take a snap under center?


I dont think any NFL team runs a Run and Shoot offense anymore.
That doesn't keep people around here from thinking Chase Daniel is gonna be awesome in the NFL...

It's not a pro style offense in the fact that he always lines up like that and all that. But the routes thing, that is NFL caliber. NFL teams do option routes all the time, the QB and the WR read the coverage and that determines his route...at least that's how it's usually done unless you are a 1962 offense.
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Old 12-24-2007, 02:23 PM   #15
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But the routes thing, that is NFL caliber. NFL teams do option routes all the time
Wrong. You might have one receiver run an option route on a particular play now and again. Hawaii does it every play and for each receiver. It is not anything like any NFL offense.
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