Poop 6 picks...and only 1 head scratcher

**the Talking Can** · 09:24 AM

people aren't thrilled with Cottam....fine, there were other options there

but the other 5 picks are solid BAA and all will contribute in some fashion immediately...

that's much better ratio than we were expecting.....the least pain-inducing 6 picks in Chiefs history...great great VALUE

This is what "sticking to your board" looks like, and how you avoid Bartees, Siaviis, and Wilsons:

Round 1, Pick 5 (5) Glenn Dorsey DT 6'2" 316 LSU
Pick Analysis: Dorsey's dominance should go a long way toward helping Kansas City rebuild its defense. He should command double-teams and the Chiefs become better up the middle instantly. There were some concerns about problems with Dorsey's tibia stress fracture, which may have been the reason he was still on the board at this point. His best traits are outstanding agility and a great motor.

Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Lions) Branden Albert OG 6'6" 309 Virginia
Pick Analysis:Albert has the versatility to play guard or tackle in the NFL. He finishes blocks down the field and in space. He started 37 games (35 games at left guard, two at left tackle) for Virginia over three years. Has great overall athletic ability for a big man and could develop into the best offensive lineman in the draft.

Round 2, Pick 4 (35) Brandon Flowers CB 5'10" 189 Virginia Tech
Pick Analysis:With better speed, Flowers would have been a much higher pick. He plays the game faster than his timed speed indicates (4.55). Best traits are good instincts and physical play.

Round 3, Pick 10 (73) (From Broncos through Vikings) Jamaal Charles RB 5'11" 200 Texas
Pick Analysis:The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he's a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball.

Round 3, Pick 13 (76) (From Lions) Brad Cottam TE 6'8" 270 Tennessee
Pick Analysis:Cottam's problem was the fact that he only started 10 games in five years at Tennessee. He has very impressive size and skills for a tight end to go with speed in the 4.6's. The Chiefs may be looking for a future starter with Tony Gonzalez nearing the end of his career.

Round 3, Pick 19 (82) (From Vikings) DaJuan Morgan S 6'0" 205 North Carolina State
Pick Analysis:Morgan was a one-year starter and raw, but has good athletic ability and potential. He is the type of player who can get better in the pros with good coaching, because of his measurables and potential to develop. He is an excellent special teams player who originally made his mark in the kicking game.

http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-team|team-kc

CupidStunt · 04-27-2008, 09:19 AM

Yep. I don't even class Cottam as a head-scratcher ... just a guy fans are bound to not be thrilled with. Definitely good value. Charles was insane value and Morgan was a steal.

oaklandhater · 04-27-2008, 09:22 AM

geting Charles was azsome Cottam was ok but I hate the Morgan pick in almost every way I look at it.

milkman · 04-27-2008, 09:26 AM

One has to think that these picks tell (most of) us that, not only are the Chiefs sticking to their board, they also have higher hopes for guys like Herb Taylor and Rudy Niswanger than the average fan.

Coach · 04-27-2008, 10:48 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

One has to think that these picks tell (most of) us that, not only are the Chiefs sticking to their board, they also have higher hopes for guys like Herb Taylor and Rudy Niswanger than the average fan.

Good point. I still would like to spend a 6th or a 7th on a O-line for depth. If we're rebuilding, we might as well rebuild the whole line while we still can, at least for this year.

TEX · 04-27-2008, 12:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

One has to think that these picks tell (most of) us that, not only are the Chiefs sticking to their board, they also have higher hopes for guys like Herb Taylor and Rudy Niswanger than the average fan.

Exactly. Honestly, I don't know if it's good or bad. I mean last year they thought we'd be "ok" at OL, when most saw the situation as a train wreck.

**DaneMcCloud** · 04-27-2008, 01:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milkman

One has to think that these picks tell (most of) us that, not only are the Chiefs sticking to their board, they also have higher hopes for guys like Herb Taylor and Rudy Niswanger than the average fan.

I like Niswanger. If he can stay healthy, he's going to be an asset on the offensive line.

Herb Taylor was ranked in the top ten overall last year for offensive tackles. I don't know if that means anything but hopefully he'll become at the very least, a serviceable backup.

bowener · 04-27-2008, 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

I like Niswanger. If he can stay healthy, he's going to be an asset on the offensive line.

Herb Taylor was ranked in the top ten overall last year for offensive tackles. I don't know if that means anything but hopefully he'll become at the very least, a serviceable backup.

Right now we have 4 starters on the line right?? Assuming Niswanger gets the nod at least. McIntosh (LT as of now right?), Waters (G), Niswanger (C), Alberts (G or RT??? somebody give me some insight please!!!!) [boner in shorts right now typing that btw].

**BigMeatballDave** · 04-27-2008, 09:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by oaklandhater

I hate the Morgan pick in almost every way I look at it.

How do you hate this pick?

WilliamTheIrish · 04-27-2008, 09:21 AM

You obviously haven't pegged your fan draft meter to the "Hair-on-fire" setting.

**wazu** · 04-27-2008, 09:24 AM

I actually think the RB is more of a head-scratcher than the TE. We didn't need a 3rd RB in round 3. There was still plenty of talent at WR. I also think we need a guard soon.

bowener · 04-27-2008, 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Adam

I actually think the RB is more of a head-scratcher than the TE. We didn't need a 3rd RB in round 3. There was still plenty of talent at WR. I also think we need a guard soon.

I kind of fgured him to be a KR/PR type guy possibly?

Hammock Parties · 04-27-2008, 09:24 AM

we need NICKS

tk13 · 04-27-2008, 09:24 AM

And at least the "head-scratcher" was a guy everyone thinks has tremendous potential. You can't go off potential but at least it wasn't one of those WTF picks that seems to have no redeeming value. You at least know what the front office is thinking with the pick.

**jjchieffan** · 04-27-2008, 09:25 AM

I disagree. I am scratching my head right now. Not that the picks were all that bad, but we went into this draft hoping for 5-6 starters. We did not get one from 3 picks in round 3. Doucet would have started day 1. Nicks would have started. Justin King would have been Surtains replacement. Instead we take RB, TE and S. Guaranteed no starters there.

04-27-2008, 09:18 AM	Topic Starter
the Talking Can Supporter Join Date: Aug 2001 Location: street Casino cash: $10022208	6 picks...and only 1 head scratcher people aren't thrilled with Cottam....fine, there were other options there but the other 5 picks are solid BAA and all will contribute in some fashion immediately... that's much better ratio than we were expecting.....the least pain-inducing 6 picks in Chiefs history...great great VALUE This is what "sticking to your board" looks like, and how you avoid Bartees, Siaviis, and Wilsons: Round 1, Pick 5 (5) Glenn Dorsey DT 6'2" 316 LSU Pick Analysis: Dorsey's dominance should go a long way toward helping Kansas City rebuild its defense. He should command double-teams and the Chiefs become better up the middle instantly. There were some concerns about problems with Dorsey's tibia stress fracture, which may have been the reason he was still on the board at this point. His best traits are outstanding agility and a great motor. Round 1, Pick 15 (15) (From Lions) Branden Albert OG 6'6" 309 Virginia Pick Analysis:Albert has the versatility to play guard or tackle in the NFL. He finishes blocks down the field and in space. He started 37 games (35 games at left guard, two at left tackle) for Virginia over three years. Has great overall athletic ability for a big man and could develop into the best offensive lineman in the draft. Round 2, Pick 4 (35) Brandon Flowers CB 5'10" 189 Virginia Tech Pick Analysis:With better speed, Flowers would have been a much higher pick. He plays the game faster than his timed speed indicates (4.55). Best traits are good instincts and physical play. Round 3, Pick 10 (73) (From Broncos through Vikings) Jamaal Charles RB 5'11" 200 Texas Pick Analysis:The Chiefs take a guy that is likely the best player on their board right now in Charles. He likely fell to the third round due to his lack of strength, but when it comes to speed, he's a break-away back. His playmaking ability makes him a potential situational player that can also catch the ball. Round 3, Pick 13 (76) (From Lions) Brad Cottam TE 6'8" 270 Tennessee Pick Analysis:Cottam's problem was the fact that he only started 10 games in five years at Tennessee. He has very impressive size and skills for a tight end to go with speed in the 4.6's. The Chiefs may be looking for a future starter with Tony Gonzalez nearing the end of his career. Round 3, Pick 19 (82) (From Vikings) DaJuan Morgan S 6'0" 205 North Carolina State Pick Analysis:Morgan was a one-year starter and raw, but has good athletic ability and potential. He is the type of player who can get better in the pros with good coaching, because of his measurables and potential to develop. He is an excellent special teams player who originally made his mark in the kicking game. http://www.nfl.com/draft/tracker#tab:dt-by-team\|team-kc Last edited by the Talking Can; 04-27-2008 at 09:24 AM..
Posts: 51,585

04-27-2008, 09:19 AM	#2
CupidStunt offense > defense Join Date: Jul 2005 Casino cash: $2213332	Yep. I don't even class Cottam as a head-scratcher ... just a guy fans are bound to not be thrilled with. Definitely good value. Charles was insane value and Morgan was a steal.
Posts: 8,922

04-27-2008, 09:22 AM	#3
oaklandhater future chiefs fans Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: oakland california Casino cash: $7458993	geting Charles was azsome Cottam was ok but I hate the Morgan pick in almost every way I look at it.
Posts: 23,762

04-27-2008, 09:26 AM	#4
milkman Dumbass! Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Leading the Marty bashing Casino cash: $10029395	One has to think that these picks tell (most of) us that, not only are the Chiefs sticking to their board, they also have higher hopes for guys like Herb Taylor and Rudy Niswanger than the average fan. __________________
Posts: 70,769

04-27-2008, 09:21 AM	#10
WilliamTheIrish Champion Golfer Of The Year Join Date: Aug 2001 Casino cash: $5720607	You obviously haven't pegged your fan draft meter to the "Hair-on-fire" setting.
Posts: 34,662

04-27-2008, 09:24 AM	#11
wazu ... Join Date: May 2002 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $1822295 VARSITY	I actually think the RB is more of a head-scratcher than the TE. We didn't need a 3rd RB in round 3. There was still plenty of talent at WR. I also think we need a guard soon.
Posts: 27,985

04-27-2008, 09:24 AM	#13
Hammock Parties I'll be back. Join Date: Nov 2002 Casino cash: $4330478	we need NICKS __________________ Chiefs game films
Posts: 278,959

04-27-2008, 09:24 AM	#14
tk13 ... Join Date: Nov 2001 Casino cash: $1622500	And at least the "head-scratcher" was a guy everyone thinks has tremendous potential. You can't go off potential but at least it wasn't one of those WTF picks that seems to have no redeeming value. You at least know what the front office is thinking with the pick.
Posts: 55,021

04-27-2008, 09:25 AM	#15
jjchieffan Supporter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Highlandville, MO Casino cash: $3092247	I disagree. I am scratching my head right now. Not that the picks were all that bad, but we went into this draft hoping for 5-6 starters. We did not get one from 3 picks in round 3. Doucet would have started day 1. Nicks would have started. Justin King would have been Surtains replacement. Instead we take RB, TE and S. Guaranteed no starters there. __________________ Genesis 1:1 In the beginning, God created the Heavens and the Earth. Following the historical accounts and the genealogy from that point on, the age of the Earth is approximately 6000-7000 years old. The Big Bullshit Theory is a lie. It and the evolution theory go against real science. Satan has used our public school system to brainwash everyone into believing these lies. Be not decieved.
Posts: 12,622