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Old 01-16-2009, 10:21 AM   Topic Starter
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Pioli and Herms Tampa 2
Blah Blah Blah with the Patsification of the Chiefs.. What we should be asking is can Pioli get the right players for the Tampa 2 and Bucsification?

We are in dire need of some LB's, safties and a push from the DL, will Herm and Pioli be able to find those guys and get this defense out of the cellar?

We need at least 2 safeties, 2 LB's and two soild down linemen this off season to make a difference with this defense... Yes I know that is alot to ask for, but we need help and badly...
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:22 AM   #2
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Why would Pioli need to get players to fit Herm's system, when he's going to fire Herm in the next 5-7 days?
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:20 AM   #3
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Why would Pioli need to get players to fit Herm's system, when he's going to fire Herm in the next 5-7 days?
Pioli will go into the interview process with Herm as open-minded as possible, but once he gets feedback from the coach, he will have ample evidence to show Clark that Herm isn't the right man for the job. We are paying Herm a courtesy by getting his version of the situation, which will also allow Scott a better understanding of what the players were asked to do. I expect Herm will be relieved of his duties fairly quick.
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:23 AM   #4
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We're so bad on D right now it would be the perfect time to scrap the cover 2. And that means get rid of Herm!
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:29 AM   #5
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We're so bad on D right now it would be the perfect time to scrap the cover 2. And that means get rid of Herm!
True, but we havent done that...

There are alot of threads about 3-4 or 4-3, but why not the cover 2?

Can Pioli get the right players that will work with Herm and Herms systems here to make the Tampa 2 successful?
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Old 01-16-2009, 12:14 PM   #6
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We're so bad on D right now it would be the perfect time to scrap the cover 2. And that means get rid of Herm!
What? You don't like the Cover "WHO" defense?
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:28 AM   #7
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Why on earth would anyone want to run the cover 2 as a base defense at this point in time? Why on earth would anyone allow Herm to dictate the defensive philosophy of the team?
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:37 AM   #8
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Why on earth would anyone want to run the cover 2 as a base defense at this point in time? Why on earth would anyone allow Herm to dictate the defensive philosophy of the team?
Because he is the HC and that is his defense of preference...
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:16 AM   #9
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Because he is the HC and that is his defense of preference...
But he did run a 3-4 in New York with Cottrell. Herm is not an X's and O's coach and he probably relies on his defensive coordinator to run whatever defense he wants anyway.

The Tampa 2 actually does work in the NFL, but you need a lot of creativity behind it. And I'm not convinced anyone has that creativity except Monte Kiffin. So I agree that they need to move away from the Cover 2.

I know a 3-4 will lesser utilize Dorsey's talents, but I still think that's a direction we should move toward.
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Old 01-16-2009, 11:39 AM   #10
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But he did run a 3-4 in New York with Cottrell. Herm is not an X's and O's coach and he probably relies on his defensive coordinator to run whatever defense he wants anyway.

The Tampa 2 actually does work in the NFL, but you need a lot of creativity behind it. And I'm not convinced anyone has that creativity except Monte Kiffin. So I agree that they need to move away from the Cover 2.

I know a 3-4 will lesser utilize Dorsey's talents, but I still think that's a direction we should move toward.
So you think it was Gunther that wanted to run the Tampa 2?
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Because he is the HC and that is his defense of preference...
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Blah Blah Blah with the Patsification* of the Chiefs.. What we should be asking is can Pioli get the right players for the Tampa 2 and Bucsification?

We are in dire need of some LB's, safties and a push from the DL, will Herm and Pioli be able to find those guys and get this defense out of the cellar?

We need at least 2 safeties, 2 LB's and two soild down linemen this off season to make a difference with this defense... Yes I know that is alot to ask for, but we need help and badly...


*Coined by John_Wayne on 01/15/09.
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:42 AM   #13
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Old 01-16-2009, 10:46 AM   #14
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I disagree about the safeties. We don't need 2 safeties. We might get one late. We do need LB's though. Need new and better coaching on the Defense.
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We won't be running the cover-2 or any variant as our base defense.
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