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3-4 might make this moot, but someone had an interesting post...
...in the "other" Chiefs forum. This is a copy/paste of his post:
OK, Im gonna compare two players and to keep emotions out, Im gonna label them player A, and (you guessed it) player B player A was the second overall choice in his respected draft. He is 6´4" tall 270 pounds in his first three years in the nfl, he racked up totals of: 18.5 sacks 188 total tackles 9 forced fumbles broken down year by year as rookie 2.5 sacks 53 tackles 1 forced fumble soph 6.5 sacks 67 tackles 4 forced fumbles third year 9.5 sacks 68 tackles 4 forced fumbles Player B was drafted 20th overall in the first round through his first three years in the league he ammased: 18.5 sacks 173 tackles 10 forced fumbles broken down by year as: rookie year 8 sacks 61 tackles 5 forced fumbles sophmore 7.5 sacks 58 tackles 2 forced fumbles third year 3 sacks 54 tackles 3 forced fumbles So which, if either, was overdrafted or a better value? I will recap them again: player A 6´4" 270 18.5 sacks 188 tackles 9 forced fumbles player B 6´3" 275 pounds 18.5 sacks 173 tackles 10 forced fumbles Player A is Niel Smith Player B is Tamba Hali My point is, dont be so quick to judge a career of a defensive player on the first three years, as you might miss a gem! |
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I would argue that Neil Smith showed improvement over those 3 years. That's the most important thing I saw. Tamba's ability (and stats in each of those categories) declined over those 3 years.
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I would argue that the team around Neil got progressively better. The team around Tamba has gotten consistantly worse.
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I would argue that Hali isn't very good. He is what we thought maxxed out effort guy
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It's like we're the ****ing Arizona Cardinals!
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Tamba's ability "declined", in part, because he was asked to switch positions. He's a LDE, not a RDE.
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Look, I like Hali as much as the next guy, and I don't think he should get cut. But this year is do or die for him. If he doesn't improve significantly, then I think he should be cut loose. I know that our entire team declined (especially our inside 7), but they're all on tight leashes for now. That way, we can look for improvement and attribute the decline to Herm as opposed to the players.
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I don't think it is fair to judge Hali decline based on his performance in a position he was never suppose to play. He was a stopgap, a plug to "replace" Allan, can't expect the same production. |
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You could expect better production than he had.
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I was a big Neil Smith fan, but his best move, is now illegal and draws a flag. I very seriously doubt he would be as effective now.
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Put up or shut up for Tamba.
Show us you have talent and were coached by go-tards. No more grass was tall bullshit. Just get to the mother****ing QB. Posted via Mobile Device |
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