NFL Draft I'll come out and say it: this was a good draft.

Direckshun · 04-26-2009, 09:03 PM

This draft did not make the most sense out of what we COULD have done.

But think of what we accomplished:

We drafted the TWO BEST pure 3-4 DEs in the Draft this year. Jackson in particular seems to have a great ceiling, and Magee is the perfect lunchpail guy.
Anybody here who realistically thought we were set at CB with Flowers-Carr-Leggett(-Daniels?) is deluding themselves. We were going to need another piece there. Washington was not the BEST choice we could have made, but his pick is not senseless.
For a draft that was largely without sizzle, we did make it out of the draft with two potentially exciting skill-position players from the late rounds.
A kicker! BARTH VS. SUCCOP, an elite battle of eliteness.
Brown and O'Connell didn't make a lick of sense, no defenses there.
The positions, outside of QB, that take the longest to develop are DL, WR, and CB. It makes more sense to get those players first when you are building a team. This draft hit those positions first.

There are other reasons out there but we will hear them as the thread winds on.

Good first draft by Pioli.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 04-26-2009, 09:06 PM

I'll come out and say it:

You should have your head examined. I'm convinced you've taken a serious fall, been in a car accident, something - you've not been your normal self the past couple of weeks.

Mecca · 04-26-2009, 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll come out and say it:

You should have your head examined. I'm convinced you've taken a serious fall, been in a car accident, something - you've not been your normal self the past couple of weeks.

Pretty much...

I don't even think Magee is better than Gilbert my thought is we had the choice and took the wrong one.

bdeg · 04-26-2009, 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Pretty much...

I don't even think Magee is better than Gilbert my thought is we had the choice and took the wrong one.

Gilbert's not exactly a risk-free prospect. Evidently they don't believe he'll pan out, that's usually the way it turns out with guys that can't do it on the field in college. Hopefully they're right and the corner will come into his own with time.

Mecca · 04-26-2009, 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by bdeg

Gilbert's not exactly a risk-free prospect. Evidently they don't believe he'll pan out, that's usually the way it turns out with guys that can't do it on the field in college.

Um Jarron Gilbert led the nation in tackles for loss so what exactly wasn't he doing?

Direckshun · 04-26-2009, 09:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Pretty much...

I don't even think Magee is better than Gilbert my thought is we had the choice and took the wrong one.

I think they are both great prospects, but Magee's transition will be less difficult in both competition level and positionally.

EyePod · 04-27-2009, 10:40 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Pretty much...

I don't even think Magee is better than Gilbert my thought is we had the choice and took the wrong one.

I think we went with Magee because he's played both DT and DE. So I figure we are going to run a hybrid, and *hopefully* that experience will be invaluable (this is what I tell myself to sleep at night).

htismaqe · 04-27-2009, 11:02 AM

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Originally Posted by EyePod

I think we went with Magee because he's played both DT and DE. So I figure we are going to run a hybrid, and *hopefully* that experience will be invaluable (this is what I tell myself to sleep at night).

They also apparently project him to be able to play 2-gap in the future.

Direckshun · 04-26-2009, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll come out and say it:

You should have your head examined. I'm convinced you've taken a serious fall, been in a car accident, something - you've not been your normal self the past couple of weeks.

Hey, you read my mocks. I never took two DEs straight in a row.

This draft was not what I wanted ideally.

But it makes a great degree of sense, for a series of clear reasons.

googlegoogle · 04-27-2009, 01:40 AM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

I'll come out and say it:

You should have your head examined. I'm convinced you've taken a serious fall, been in a car accident, something - you've not been your normal self the past couple of weeks.

Maybe you should have yours examined to.

ChiefsCountry · 04-26-2009, 09:07 PM

Direck is this your attention whore thread. Last year you went apeshit on that draft.

Direckshun · 04-26-2009, 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Direck is this your attention whore thread. Last year you went apeshit on that draft.

I hated the first day, but loved the second day.

Turns out the first day landed us two studs, with Dorsey still developing. The second day mostly went bankrupt. So it does show you what I know -- but I'm consistent, at least.

DaWolf · 04-26-2009, 09:08 PM

I don't think we'll know for a while. Take the last two drafts, while people were relatively pleased with the results of those after draft day, we've only won 6 games in that timespan. I'm not going to say this was a good or bad draft at this time. We have to see if these guys become building blocks for this team to be a winner, and that's going to take time. I like that they seem to have roles in mind for these guys, but I am actually more curious as to how our existing players are going to shake out on this team, especially Dorsey and Hali...

**Reaper16** · 04-26-2009, 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by DaWolf

I don't think we'll know for a while. Take the last two drafts, while people were relatively pleased with the results of those after draft day, we've only won 6 games in that timespan.

Yes, because the players drafted in the past two years changed the fact that the team was quarterbacked by Damon Huard, Brodie Coyle and Tyler Thigpen.

DaWolf · 04-26-2009, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Reaper16

Yes, because the players drafted in the past two years changed the fact that the team was quarterbacked by Damon Huard, Brodie Coyle and Tyler Thigpen.

So what? The defense has sucked for the last decade. We used to win games with Steve DeBerg, Dave Kreig, Elvis Grbac, and Steve Bono. Six wins in two years is not just due to the QBs. If you are tearing down a team to play young players, those young players better start producing some wins within a couple of years. It's happened in other places. You can't pass judgment on guys taken last year yet and even some of the other guys, but just because you are drafting players and playing them doesn't mean that you've drafted the right guys, and it is quite possible some of these young guys that Carl and Herm drafted just aren't winning caliber football players...

04-26-2009, 09:03 PM	Topic Starter
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $2083447	I'll come out and say it: this was a good draft. This draft did not make the most sense out of what we COULD have done. But think of what we accomplished: We drafted the TWO BEST pure 3-4 DEs in the Draft this year. Jackson in particular seems to have a great ceiling, and Magee is the perfect lunchpail guy. Anybody here who realistically thought we were set at CB with Flowers-Carr-Leggett(-Daniels?) is deluding themselves. We were going to need another piece there. Washington was not the BEST choice we could have made, but his pick is not senseless. For a draft that was largely without sizzle, we did make it out of the draft with two potentially exciting skill-position players from the late rounds. A kicker! BARTH VS. SUCCOP, an elite battle of eliteness. Brown and O'Connell didn't make a lick of sense, no defenses there. The positions, outside of QB, that take the longest to develop are DL, WR, and CB. It makes more sense to get those players first when you are building a team. This draft hit those positions first. There are other reasons out there but we will hear them as the thread winds on. Good first draft by Pioli.
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OnTheWarpath15 MVP Join Date: Sep 2005 Casino cash: $2161115	I'll come out and say it: You should have your head examined. I'm convinced you've taken a serious fall, been in a car accident, something - you've not been your normal self the past couple of weeks.
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ChiefsCountry The Insider Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Lake of the Ozarks Casino cash: $-1431248	Direck is this your attention whore thread. Last year you went apeshit on that draft.
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04-26-2009, 09:08 PM	#13
DaWolf Cry havoc... Join Date: Aug 2000 Casino cash: $10007725	I don't think we'll know for a while. Take the last two drafts, while people were relatively pleased with the results of those after draft day, we've only won 6 games in that timespan. I'm not going to say this was a good or bad draft at this time. We have to see if these guys become building blocks for this team to be a winner, and that's going to take time. I like that they seem to have roles in mind for these guys, but I am actually more curious as to how our existing players are going to shake out on this team, especially Dorsey and Hali...
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