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Old 04-30-2009, 03:22 PM   Topic Starter
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A-Rod Tipping Pitches?
I am as sick of hearing about A-Rod as anyone. He's a juicer and I believe he always has been. But now there is apparently evidence that he tipped pitches to opposing teams in order to get more favorable at bats.

Are you ****ing kidding me???? If this is credible, he should be banned from baseball altogether. If Pete Rose is out, A-Rod should GTFO and stay out. No records, no HoF, NOTHING.
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:26 PM   #2
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Ah shit who cares, teams steal signs, do all kinds of shit from back in the old days.

This isn't anything new. Move along folks.
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:28 PM   #3
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Ah shit who cares, teams steal signs, do all kinds of shit from back in the old days.

This isn't anything new. Move along folks.
Yeah, a player telling the other team what's coming would be pretty unorthodox.
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:32 PM   #4
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Yeah, a player telling the other team what's coming would be pretty unorthodox.
This. Stealing signals, while ethically dubious, is not the same as cheating your own team so your personal stat line can look better.
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Old 04-30-2009, 04:04 PM   #5
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Ah shit who cares, teams steal signs, do all kinds of shit from back in the old days.

This isn't anything new. Move along folks.
But they steal signs to help their team...not the other guys. In blow-out games A-Rod was stealing the signs of his own Pitcher/Catcher and letting the other teams batter know what was coming in the hope that the other team SS/2b would do the same for him so he could pad his stats.

If this is true, it is as bad as what Rose did - ultimately changing the outcome of games.

Ban him.
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Old 05-01-2009, 09:05 AM   #6
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But they steal signs to help their team...not the other guys. In blow-out games A-Rod was stealing the signs of his own Pitcher/Catcher and letting the other teams batter know what was coming in the hope that the other team SS/2b would do the same for him so he could pad his stats.

If this is true, it is as bad as what Rose did - ultimately changing the outcome of games.

Ban him.
Agreed.

Can you imagine if you were a borderline good enough pitcher being screwed over. You are drawing a major league salary and benefits and working toward your next contract then your own teammate kills your stats by letting the other team know what is coming. Sick.

Just a few years ago I was happy to watch this guy play, thinking that I was seeing one of the best in history. Since then the roid thing has tainted his legacy, and if these new allegations are true he has just nuked his legacy into oblivion.
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:26 PM   #7
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:30 PM   #8
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I'll pose it as a question, then. Does anyone think A-Rod should/will be banned if this is shown to be for real? Rose was banned for gambling on games in which he wasn't involved. The main reason seems to be the damage his actions did to the integrity of the game. If A-Rod tipped pitches, IMO that's worse and more damaging.
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I'll pose it as a question, then. Does anyone think A-Rod should/will be banned if this is shown to be for real? Rose was banned for gambling on games in which he wasn't involved. The main reason seems to be the damage his actions did to the integrity of the game. If A-Rod tipped pitches, IMO that's worse and more damaging.
No chance he gets banned.

An ass beating from teammate(s) if true? Very, very possible.
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No chance he gets banned.

An ass beating from teammate(s) if true? Very, very possible.
Allegedly his teammates knew cause they told him he was tipping too early and too obvious.
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I'll pose it as a question, then. Does anyone think A-Rod should/will be banned if this is shown to be for real?
Yes. However, I simply do not believe this is true. Until thoroughly proven otherwise, I'm looking at this as a bunch of hysterical claims made by someone wanting to sell a book.
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Old 04-30-2009, 03:49 PM   #15
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Yes. However, I simply do not believe this is true. Until thoroughly proven otherwise, I'm looking at this as a bunch of hysterical claims made by someone wanting to sell a book.
The woman who wrote the book is by all accounts a well respected journalist. It was addressed by JRIB, ATH, and PTI. All of these shows shared the sentiment that she wouldn't have written it if she didn't have compelling evidence.
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