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Old 07-13-2009, 09:40 AM   Topic Starter
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Halladay Named AL Starter
Screw Joe Maddon. He has chosen Roy Halladay to start for the American League and not Zack Greinke as the starter for tomorrow night's AS Game.
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:49 AM   #2
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Old 07-13-2009, 09:59 AM   #3
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Their stats are very close. Halladay gets the honor for Lifetime Achievement.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:03 AM   #4
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Their stats are very close. Halladay gets the honor for Lifetime Achievement.
Yep....thats the way i see it.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:00 AM   #5
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It's really not surprising considering how things have gone as of late.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:46 AM   #6
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It's really not surprising considering how things have gone as of late.
Well you should be picked based on your season as a whole. Even then, a 3.95 era in the last month or so isn't something to hang your head about. There isn't one pitching stat line that Halladay is superior to Greinke to this season. They are even tied on wins, and Greinke plays for the Kansas City freaking Royals. Total screw job.
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Old 07-13-2009, 11:51 AM   #7
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Well you should be picked based on your season as a whole. Even then, a 3.95 era in the last month or so isn't something to hang your head about. There isn't one pitching stat line that Halladay is superior to Greinke to this season. They are even tied on wins, and Greinke plays for the Kansas City freaking Royals. Total screw job.
totally agree with this, Greinke deserves it! The Rays just beat Halladay and im sure Maddon prob told him then he would make him starter. To have 10 wins on the Royals is awesome he should have at least 12 so this pick was total BS. Just like when pedroia couldnt go he should have picked kinsler because hes a 2b but had to go with his own guy in pena, not saying Pena doesnt deserve it but they needed a 2b.
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Old 07-13-2009, 04:59 PM   #8
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It's really not surprising considering how things have gone as of late.
Oh, go **** yourself.

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Greinke - 10 wins, 2.12 ERA, 5 CG, 2 SHO, 129 K, 1.076 WHIP, 204 ERA+

Halladay - 10 wins, 2.85 ERA, 3 CG, 1 SHO, 106 K, 1.098 WHIP, 151 ERA+
Seriously, if we're just gonna judge just because of the last 3-4 games, then that's just absurd. What the **** ever happened to the previous 13 games? They don't matter either? The stats don't lie. Greinke > Halladay.
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Old 07-13-2009, 05:37 PM   #9
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Seriously, if we're just gonna judge just because of the last 3-4 games, then that's just absurd.
Here's their last 4* games:

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Greinke: 2-2, 8 ER, 23 K, 3 BB, BA .307
Halladay: 1-2, 11 ER, 24 K, 5 BB, BA .304
(*for Halladay, that skips the start where he left injured and goes all the way back to June 7, when he pitched a complete game shutout against the mighty Royals offense.)

Apparently, though, it's all a moot point anyway:

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Was watching BBTN and they made it clear Halladay was the no-brainer decision to start, except for an acknowledgement that maybe you could make a case for Josh Beckett. Then they talked about the great AL pitching staff and how it'd be so great to start Halladay for a few innings, then get an inning or two from Verlander and Felix and then bring in the likes of Nathan and Rivera.

So it seems Grenkie never even made the team.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:06 AM   #10
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They aren't equal at all. Greinke's 10 wins for the Royals have to be worth about 13 or 14 wins for a player on a good team.
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Old 07-13-2009, 10:09 AM   #11
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Zach's 2-4 record with about a 3.90 era in his last 7 games didn't help matter's for him. He's been very human since his no decision game against the WhiteSux on May 31st.
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Zach's 2-4 record with about a 3.90 era in his last 7 games didn't help matter's for him. He's been very human since his no decision game against the WhiteSux on May 31st.
yep-but a couple of those he got 0 run support.

Oh well, let Pujols hit the first homer of him instead of Zach.
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5 cgs and 2 sho's playing for the next to worst team in the league guess doesn't help
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