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Old 09-08-2010, 04:58 PM   Topic Starter
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Why are the Chargers that much better?
I know I'm going to get a lot of flack for saying this and I even put money on the under for the chargers and the over on the chiefs because of this but I just don't see where they are that great of a team, especially with the changes.

Comparisons:

QB Chargers - B/B+ (not elite) Chiefs C (average at best)
RB Chargers - B- Chiefs A (may have best in league with combo)
WR Chargers - C+/B- (with holdout) Chiefs C+/B-
Oline Chargers - B Chiefs - B
TE Chargers - A Chiefs - D/C ( still not sure on 3rd round pick)
DL Chargers - B Chiefs - C/C+
LB Chargers - B Chiefs - B
Sec Chargers - C Chiefs - B+
Spec Chargers - B Chiefs - A
coaching Chargers -C Chiefs - B (with new off and def cord)

I guess we will see Monday but I just don't see it with the Chargers this year, besides QB, they are very pedestrian and we are better in several areas.
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What's your view on the coaching?

I know Norv's a smart guy and has been around a long tmie, but I find it hard to give that douchenozzle the nod in any sort of coaching match. I mean... it's Norv, fer crissake.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:10 PM   #6
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What's your view on the coaching?

I know Norv's a smart guy and has been around a long tmie, but I find it hard to give that douchenozzle the nod in any sort of coaching match. I mean... it's Norv, fer crissake.
Haley and Norv are both great OCs. Head coaches? Meh.
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Old 09-08-2010, 05:13 PM   #7
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Haley and Norv are both great OCs. Head coaches? Meh.
I wouldn't call Haley a "great" offensive coordinator. He was the OC in name only in 2007 and while the 2008 Cardinals had a potent offense, he had a HOF QB and WR on that squad (with Whisenhunt looking over his shoulder).

Haley certainly didn't look "great" last year and Norv in his time in the NFL has done a good job with far less talent.

It's hard to dispute Norv's success in Dallas as an OC and in San Diego as a head coach.

Has he won a Super Bowl as a head coach? No. But he certainly isn't near as bad as he's made out to be on Chiefsplanet.
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I wouldn't call Haley a "great" offensive coordinator. He was the OC in name only in 2007 and while the 2008 Cardinals had a potent offense, he had a HOF QB and WR on that squad.

He certainly didn't look "great" last year and Norv in his time in the NFL has done a good job with far less talent.

It's hard to dispute Norv's success in Dallas as an OC and in San Diego as a head coach. Has he won a Super Bowl? No. But he certainly isn't near as bad as he's made out to be on Chiefsplanet.
I think Haley has the great OC part in him......he just hasn't shown it in KC so far.

And if you're going to say that Haley had a HOF QB and WR on that squad.....then you also have to mention that Turner had Aikman and Smith on his team.
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Old 09-08-2010, 08:40 PM   #9
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I wouldn't call Haley a "great" offensive coordinator. He was the OC in name only in 2007 and while the 2008 Cardinals had a potent offense, he had a HOF QB and WR on that squad (with Whisenhunt looking over his shoulder).

Haley certainly didn't look "great" last year and Norv in his time in the NFL has done a good job with far less talent.
Norv was a great coordinator, but I don't think he ever had to coordinate a unit anywhere close to as poor as the one the Chiefs put on the field last year. They were starting guys the week they picked them off the waiver wire. Not to mention Matt Cassel.

That said, I don't think Haley has much on his resume to say he's a great coordinator, but there had to be some reason why his name was coming up for jobs before we'd even hired Pioli. And I think he's showing some signs that he might be a good head coach, although I'll be shocked the day he ever looks comfortable talking to the press.


As for why San Diego is better, I would say it's because they've consistently been the team of the division for 5 or 6 years, while we've swirled the bowl, and the only important piece they've lost there is Tomlinson. We're rebuilding, and they're already built, basically.

I do think, however, this is a great opportunity to take one. They're down a couple of integral starters, and they have a tendency towards slow starts to the season.

Unfortunately we tend to start slowly, too.
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What's your view on the coaching?

I know Norv's a smart guy and has been around a long tmie, but I find it hard to give that douchenozzle the nod in any sort of coaching match. I mean... it's Norv, fer crissake.
One of the best things going for the Chiefs on Monday night is that they're playing the Chargers in September -- and we all know how terrible SD is in September.
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One of the best things going for the Chiefs on Monday night is that they're playing the Chargers in September -- and we all know how terrible SD is in September.
If the Chargers are bad in Sept what are the Chiefs? Haven't won an opener since 2005.
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The only thing that matters in this game is how Gates does against your LBs and Safetys. He has a good game, we win, he doesn't, you win.
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The only thing that matters in this game is how Gates does against your LBs and Safetys. He has a good game, we win, he doesn't, you win.
I'm more concerned with Mathews than I am Gates. I have a feeling that Mathews is going to tear us a new one.
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I'm more concerned with Mathews than I am Gates. I have a feeling that Mathews is going to tear us a new one.
I would be more concerned about the Future HOF TE who is still in the prime of his career, who is faster than LBs and stronger that Safeties....but thats just me.
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I would be more concerned about the Future HOF TE who is still in the prime of his career, who is faster than LBs and stronger that Safeties....but thats just me.
Why? The QB who is throwing the ball to him....is only a B.
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