Chiefs Should the Chiefs have drafted Sedrick Ellis over Dorsey?

Deberg_1990 · 09-10-2010, 06:54 PM

Just comparing the stats......seems as though Ellis has been more a force so far than Dorsey.....thoughts?

Ellis:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...rBrFaf8t7.uLYF

Dorsey:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/players/...rBrFaf8t7.uLYF

**DaKCMan AP** · 09-10-2010, 06:54 PM

**bevischief** · 09-10-2010, 06:58 PM

**Bwana** · 09-10-2010, 07:03 PM

Oh for **** sake.

**bevischief** · 09-10-2010, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Bwana

Oh for **** sake.

My take...

**RealSNR** · 09-10-2010, 07:08 PM

Herm and Carl could not have seen the team jamming a square peg into a round hole by converting to the 3-4 a year after drafting Dorsey. It was absolutely the right pick at the time. Matt Ryan was gone already. Dorsey was near the top of everybody's draft boards. It was absolutely the right call.

**Gonzo** · 09-10-2010, 07:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SNR

Herm and Carl could not have seen the team jamming a square peg into a round hole by converting to the 3-4 a year after drafting Dorsey. It was absolutely the right pick at the time. Matt Ryan was gone already. Dorsey was near the top of everybody's draft boards. It was absolutely the right call.

Pretty much this. I still think he's going to do well. He's a natural talent and if he can't do the 3-4, they'll trade him to a team that can utilize him correctly for a decent pick or player.
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Pasta Little Brioni · 09-10-2010, 07:16 PM

Really????

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-10-2010, 07:19 PM

It would have been a better pick had we been in a 3-4, because people believe that Ellis can man the 0 technique in a 3-4.

That said, Dorsey was clearly a superior prospect to Ellis coming out, and you can't blame Carl, Herm, and Kuharich on Pioli's insistence that we marginalize the only talented player in our front 7 to chase a trend that is ill-suited to his talents.

Consistent1 · 09-10-2010, 07:20 PM

It just wouldn't be Chiefs Planet without shit like this. At least we got Tyson Jackson to bolster the D-Line. Who will be the first to say Dorsey for Stafford and three firsts because Detroit wants him in this thread?

Ebolapox · 09-10-2010, 07:36 PM

it's already been said: dorsey was the OBVIOUS pick.

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-10-2010, 07:40 PM

This does raise an interesting point about the draft.

If you draft the obvious selection at a certain slot and he busts, it's hard to blame the GM for making that pick because he was the consensus selection at that spot. That is the way the draft falls at times. However, when you reach to take someone, or you pass a superior prospect up and they bust, it's far worse.

If Oher busts for the Ravens (obviously not happening) it's not nearly as bad as if Pettigrew does for the Lions.

That's one of the things that made the Jackson pick so bad. It's not that he hasn't lived up to his draft position, as Dorsey really hasn't either yet, it's that he is looking like both a reach and a bust.

Deberg_1990 · 09-10-2010, 08:16 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

If you draft the obvious selection at a certain slot and he busts, it's hard to blame the GM for making that pick because he was the consensus selection at that spot

Ryan Sims would fall into this category?

Mecca · 09-10-2010, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Deberg_1990

Ryan Sims would fall into this category?

That was a pick of teams being reeruned, John Henderson was clearly the best DT that year but he got downgrade for "being to tall".

**Dave Lane** · 09-11-2010, 07:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

That was a pick of teams being reeruned, John Henderson was clearly the best DT that year but he got downgrade for "being to tall".

I think there were back issues that scared people along with the height issue.

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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	It would have been a better pick had we been in a 3-4, because people believe that Ellis can man the 0 technique in a 3-4. That said, Dorsey was clearly a superior prospect to Ellis coming out, and you can't blame Carl, Herm, and Kuharich on Pioli's insistence that we marginalize the only talented player in our front 7 to chase a trend that is ill-suited to his talents. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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'Hamas' Jenkins Now you've pissed me off! Join Date: Jan 2006 Casino cash: $7919572	This does raise an interesting point about the draft. If you draft the obvious selection at a certain slot and he busts, it's hard to blame the GM for making that pick because he was the consensus selection at that spot. That is the way the draft falls at times. However, when you reach to take someone, or you pass a superior prospect up and they bust, it's far worse. If Oher busts for the Ravens (obviously not happening) it's not nearly as bad as if Pettigrew does for the Lions. That's one of the things that made the Jackson pick so bad. It's not that he hasn't lived up to his draft position, as Dorsey really hasn't either yet, it's that he is looking like both a reach and a bust. __________________ "When the Know-Nothings get control, it will read 'all men are created equal, except negroes, and foreigners, and Catholics.' When it comes to this I should prefer emigrating to some country where they make no pretense of loving liberty – to Russia, for instance, where despotism can be taken pure, and without the base alloy of hypocrisy.”--Abraham Lincoln
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