Speaketh, Dear ChiefsPlanet...

[Chiefs Pantalones]

What are your feelings on the Chiefs since the loss? And don't base it on the fact that we lost, but how we played in that loss. Has your outlook and/or expectations changed? Do you still feel like we are winning this division?

It seems some of the excitement has since disappeared. No more playoff expectations? Our schedule is favorable but just as we can beat anybody, we proved this past Sunday we can lose to even crap teams like the Raiders.

Thoughts?


hugs and kisses,

VT

[Fish]

We're not going to win another game. And I'll only change my mind if they win this weekend...

[Simply Red]

Hopefully the internet will take cassel with it, whenever it crashes.

[Rasputin]

That was a blood thursty war against the greatest rival teams ever in the NFL. I think it brought out the best and worst in the Chiefs. It gave us a feel of how it's gonna be from now on in this division against them and renewed a burning hatred for them. It also made the Chiefs sink down and make more penalties than we've seen all season and that was uncharistic of us. So we can learn from that game, lick our wounds and fight another day. It showed nothing is going to be easy and we have to dig harder and want it more than before. That game was a gut check and this game against the Broncows is another test cuz it's rival. We still have much to improve, but we are a better team and I think we will over come this loss and use it to get better.

[petegz28]

I still feel good about this team. Lets look at some facts of the last game.

Fluke cirumstances on the game-tying drive:

1. Washington gets hurt giving the Raiders a free stoppage of the clock
2. Raiders get called for holding under 2 minutes and no timeouts and there is no 10 second runoff
3. Washington gets called for a clear phantom hold
4. Refs review a clear catch allowing the Raiders to not have to spike the ball and giving the a long stoppage of the clock
5. Flowers has an interception go through his hands and the Raider's WR gets his hands on it and bobbles it all the way to the ground and it is not reviewed.

That shit just happens sometimes. The majority of the game tying drive was out of our hands as the Refs chose to intervene or not intervene or not enforce the rules accordingly and all ended up in the favor of the Raiders. They capitalised on it so no shame to them. They played the hand they were dealt.

Had a good Ref crew been on the field, Washington does not get called for the phantom hold, 10 secs is run off the clock bringing under 30 secs if I remember correctly, after the Raiders holding penalty, and the bobbled "catch" gets reviewed thus not allowing the Raiders the field position for the tying FG.

I thought we played well enough to keep them from tying the game but some rotten luck hit us at the worst time.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by petegz28

but some rotten luck hit us at the worst time.

That's just it though, Pete; we ALWAYS have that 'rotten luck' - we're TIRED ****ING of it. There comes a time where team and personal/player accountability HAS to be observed. I seriously would be tickled pink if they'd put Brodie in. ...And you all can call me a dumbass until you're blue in the face regarding that last sentence, if ya'll don't concur.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

That's just it though, Pete; we ALWAYS have that 'rotten luck' - we're TIRED ****ING of it. There comes a time where team and personal accountability HAS to be observed. I seriously would be tickled pink if they'd put Brodie in. ...And you all can call me a dumbass until you're blue in the face regarding that last sentence, if ya'll don't concur.

We have had rotten luck with t he officials all year. To a good extent we have played through it. I can think of one BS call that went our way and several that didn't. The problem with being accountable is you can only be so accountable when the rotten luck (calls) starts hitting you in the last minute of a game. If a Ref makes a bad call at the end of the game, Indy, Houston, Oakland, you have really no time to play through it.

[Simply Red]

Originally Posted by petegz28

We have had rotten luck with t he officials all year. To a good extent we have played through it. I can think of one BS call that went our way and several that didn't. The problem with being accountable is you can only be so accountable when the rotten luck (calls) starts hitting you in the last minute of a game. If a Ref makes a bad call at the end of the game, Indy, Houston, Oakland, you have really no time to play through it.

well our coordination has always been clumbsy when time is ticking, esp. while we have a narrow/slim lead. It's better now, but still, often, amateur in my opinion. Part of that is newness I guess. The time allotment needed for this staff to gel (and they may not be there yet) and youthful playboys on the field.

*hoping it gets better

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Simply Red

well our coordination has always been clumbsy when time is ticking, esp. while we have a narrow/slim lead. It's better now, but still, often, amateur in my opinion. Part of that is newness I guess. The time allotment for this staff to gell and youthful playboys on the field.

*hoping it gets better

If I am disappointed in anything it is the play calling on 3rd down. I don't understand what Weis is calling and what he is telling and not telling Cassel to do?

That being saidm Bowe dropped ball and all, we had a chance to seal that game Sunday and I will say we got some severe screwing over by the Zebras. Drawing a holding penalty is crucial in a game under 2 mins and the other team has no TO's. We did that but they refused to run the 10 secs off the clock. A holding call on the defense is huge for the offense in the last minute when they only need a FG to tie. The Raiders got a nice phantom call. Missing an interception to seal the game usually costs you only when the other team still catches the ball. Ford didn't catch it yet the booth chose not to review the suspect catch as opposed to the unquestionable catch.

There isn't anything you can do about those things. Except maybe Flowers hangs onto the ball.

[GoChiefsTinyPenis]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I can think of one BS call that went our way and several that didn't.

You mean the TD pass to Tucker that he clearly didn't get two feet down?

Or the phantom 30 yard pass interference penalty against Chris Johnson that lead to KC's first phantom TD pass to Tucker?

Or the "fumble" on the punt return by Nick Miller that clearly wasn't?

Or the many uncalled holding penalties against Brian Waters on the plays that Seymour wasn't making him look like his woman?

Or, wait. Nevermind, you're a homer.

[MahiMike]

Originally Posted by GoChiefsTinyPenis

You mean the TD pass to Tucker that he clearly didn't get two feet down?

I stopped reading there. Idiot Faider fan.

[kysirsoze]

Originally Posted by GoChiefsTinyPenis

You mean the TD pass to Tucker that he clearly didn't get two feet down?

Or the phantom 30 yard pass interference penalty against Chris Johnson that lead to KC's first phantom TD pass to Tucker?

Or the "fumble" on the punt return by Nick Miller that clearly wasn't?

Or the many uncalled holding penalties against Brian Waters on the plays that Seymour wasn't making him look like his woman?

Or, wait. Nevermind, you're a homer.

And you are a dumbass. The PI call was awful, no doubt, but so was the defensive holding call later on the Chiefs. On the fumble, the side view showed the ball was moving before he went down. I'll concede it cause it's close, but that was far from bullshit.

Tucker absolutely got theTD and Hali was held on 80% of his plays at least, including the last one.

The refs blew this game from top to bottom, but get your homery bullshit out of here.

[Frankie]

Originally Posted by petegz28

I still feel good about this team. Lets look at some facts of the last game.

Fluke cirumstances on the game-tying drive:

1. Washington gets hurt giving the Raiders a free stoppage of the clock
2. Raiders get called for holding under 2 minutes and no timeouts and there is no 10 second runoff
3. Washington gets called for a clear phantom hold
4. Refs review a clear catch allowing the Raiders to not have to spike the ball and giving the a long stoppage of the clock
5. Flowers has an interception go through his hands and the Raider's WR gets his hands on it and bobbles it all the way to the ground and it is not reviewed.

That shit just happens sometimes. The majority of the game tying drive was out of our hands as the Refs chose to intervene or not intervene or not enforce the rules accordingly and all ended up in the favor of the Raiders. They capitalised on it so no shame to them. They played the hand they were dealt.

Had a good Ref crew been on the field, Washington does not get called for the phantom hold, 10 secs is run off the clock bringing under 30 secs if I remember correctly, after the Raiders holding penalty, and the bobbled "catch" gets reviewed thus not allowing the Raiders the field position for the tying FG.

I thought we played well enough to keep them from tying the game but some rotten luck hit us at the worst time.

All this + the shameful way the refs let the opposition's LT hold Tamba on almost all plays. Thanks to DVR I saw some take downs that wrestling stars would be proud of.

[petegz28]

Originally Posted by Frankie

All this + the shameful way the refs let the opposition's LT hold Tamba on almost all plays. Thanks to DVR I saw some take downs that wrestling stars would be proud of.

There was one play I will get when GC posts his torrent, where Hali was literaly getting helmet raped. I mean hands to the face multiple times in one play and not 1 flag was thrown.

[Earthling]

We are still on top. And we are winning more than anyone thought we would. I'm still excited.