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Old 03-02-2011, 07:29 PM   Topic Starter
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A mock to kill some time.

Figured that's why this forum exists.

Some statements:

1. Hali, Carr, Edwards, Shaun Smith are resigned.
2. Wiegmann decides on another year.
3. This mock is more what I'd do for the team, less what Pioli would do.

On with the show:

1. OLB Justin Houston, Georgia -- I've already explained myself here.

2. WR Austin Pettis, Boise State -- I'll bet he'll still be on the board when we pick. NFL teams are stupid when it comes to WR speed and the combine. Pettis gives us a surefire #2 WR.

3. NT Sione Fua, Stanford -- I'm assume Powe is picked up first, which is fine. I think Fua is more geared to play three-downs anyway. And he's insanely high character for a nose.

4. WR Edmund Gates, Abilene Christian -- Phenomenal speed, one of the best at the combine. Pretty good size. He can develop a bit while we let him take about 10 snaps a game his rookie season. All go routes!

5. QB Greg McElroy, Alabama -- Game manager. Smart as shit. SEC. We all know this is happening at this point. The question is where Pioli spends the pick.

5. OT Richard Lapham, Boston College -- We have pretty good depth for our OL, but Lapham is a bonus in case Branden Albert goes down and we have to move Barry Richardson to LT. O'Callaghan can man the RT in a bind, which leaves us zero depth if either of those guys go down. Lapham is a bit stiff in his movement, but he has great size and I love BC prospects.

7. S Jai Eugene, LSU -- I think Eugene needs a lot of work, but he's a great size/speed combo coming out of one of Pioli's favorite schools to scout.
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:35 PM   #2
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QB: Cassel, McElroy, Palko
RB: Charles, Jones, McCluster, Battle
FB: Castille

WR: Bowe, Pettis, Curtis, Gates, McCluster
TE: Moeaki, Pope, O'Connell

LT: Albert, Lapham
LG: Waters, Asamoah
C: Wiegmann, Niswanger
RG: Lilja, Asamoah
RT: Richardson, O'Callaghan

DE: Dorsey, Smith
NT: Fua, Edwards
DE: Jackson, Gilberry

OLB: Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Belcher, Mays
ILB: Johnson, Williams
OLB: Houston, Studebaker

CB: Flowers, Carr, Arenas, Leggett, Daniels
S: Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Eugene
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:38 PM   #3
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I'd rather the Chiefs went Sacc's route...

No C?????
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:39 PM   #4
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I'd rather the Chiefs went Sacc's route...
Yeah, three OL and two RBs. Virtually zero defense. Have at it, jd.

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No C?????
No center. I'd go high for a center in 2012. Wiegmann/Niswanger is fine center depth for one year. I can live with it.
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:41 PM   #5
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Yeah, three OL and two RBs. Virtually zero defense. Have at it, jd.

No center. I'd go high for a center in 2012. Wiegmann/Niswanger is fine center depth for one year. I can live with it.
I've already posted my mock.

This one is just... wtf?

Pettis in the 2nd? Other teams wouldnt be stupid. The Chiefs would be stupid.

You like to overrate a lot of players, though.
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Old 03-02-2011, 07:47 PM   #6
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I've already posted my mock.

This one is just... wtf?

Pettis in the 2nd? Other teams wouldnt be stupid. The Chiefs would be stupid.

You like to overrate a lot of players, though.
Before you break your arm patting yourself on the back for being the True Arbiter For Draft Analysis, take a look at your mock.

Martez Wilson is a first round pick. Of this I am sure.

Austin Pettis is probably low-2nd-early-3rd value. He will not be around when we pick in the 3rd. (WR is a curse this year. The few from big schools will be the ones everybody overrates. If you want to get solid value on a WR this year, you're going to have to pick any of the small school guys, which I did. That's where the bulk of the talent is -- if you can develop it.)

Iam Williams probably won't last until the 4th, but I'm not as certain on that... Teams get really weird when it comes to NTs.

And, well, Tolzien and Carimi suck ass. The only realistic selections I remotely like in your mock are Zane Taylor and Robert Hughes.
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Old 03-02-2011, 08:30 PM   #7
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Yeah, three OL and two RBs. Virtually zero defense. Have at it, jd.




No center. I'd go high for a center in 2012. Wiegmann/Niswanger is fine center depth for one year. I can live with it.
There's a very good chance Weigman is going to retire before this upcoming season, and even if he doesn't, he didn't hold up well against the NTs he played against, and declined substantially as the season progressed.

A center in this draft, or via free agency if there is a free agent signing period, is an absolute must.
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Old 03-03-2011, 05:48 AM   #8
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There's a very good chance Weigman is going to retire before this upcoming season, and even if he doesn't, he didn't hold up well against the NTs he played against, and declined substantially as the season progressed.

A center in this draft, or via free agency if there is a free agent signing period, is an absolute must.
The more I read, the more I'm convinced this probably isn't the year for getting a center. Unfortunately. Not a whole lot in free agency, and what looks like a lackluster draft class.
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There's a very good chance Weigman is going to retire before this upcoming season, and even if he doesn't, he didn't hold up well against the NTs he played against, and declined substantially as the season progressed.

A center in this draft, or via free agency if there is a free agent signing period, is an absolute must.
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QB: Asamoah, Cassel, McElroy, Palko
RB: Asamoah, Charles, Jones, McCluster, Battle,
FB: Asamoah, Castille

WR: Asamoah, Bowe, Pettis, Curtis, Gates, McCluster,
TE: Asamoah, Moeaki, Pope, O'Connell

LT: Asamoah, Albert, Lapham
LG: Asamoah, Waters
C: Asamoah, Wiegmann, Niswanger
RG: Asamoah, Lilja
RT: Asamoah, Richardson, O'Callaghan

DE: Asamoah, Dorsey, Smith
NT: Asamoah, Fua, Edwards
DE: Asamoah, Jackson, Gilberry

OLB: Asamoah, Hali, Sheffield
ILB: Asamoah, Belcher, Mays
ILB: Asamoah, Johnson, Williams
OLB: Asamoah, Houston, Studebaker

CB: Asamoah, Flowers, Carr, Arenas, Leggett, Daniels
S: Asamoah, Berry, Lewis, McGraw, Eugene
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It would be absolutely asinine if Helu even fell to the 5th.
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It would be absolutely asinine if Helu even fell to the 5th.
Ya. I use CBSSports' draft projections to get names and then I'll search them. They have Helu as a 7-UDFA. When I was looking at his report/numbers I was like, "Ok... No brainer. HIM!"

Then I started looking around and they are the only site that has him that low.

Everyone is pretty consistent on Anthony Allen though. He comes from GT, weird offense, he's big, doesnt shy away from contact, not too fast in a straight line, but his shuttle/3 cone times are right up there. I'd take him to replace Jones in the 7th.

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It would be absolutely asinine if Helu even fell to the 5th.
I'll laugh at whatever team drafts him. I don't know how he ran a 4.3 really he's not that fast. Secondly he doesn't have the build to last in this league.
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