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09-10-2012, 11:28 AM | Topic Starter |
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Our d-line is just disappointing. Time to start over again.
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#3 overall #11 overall with all of our money tied into the d-line. The future of our franchise is pretty much determined by these 3 guys. We failed at that and I'm afraid we are going to have to start over....again. Sure they are ok at stopping the run. But they make no difference when we need players to make a damn difference. They didn't get any sort of push yesterday. Didn't make any plays other than a few good run stops. But when the pressure is on and we need guys to step it up, they will never do that. Don't give me that excuse that d-linemen in this defense aren't gonna get stats and their jobs is to free the OLB's. I've seen plenty of 3-4 defenses where the d-line can step it up and make a play when it's needed. These guys just cannot, of course the verdict is still out on Poe and he did have that one good tackle... And also, who the **** drafts 3 d-lineman in 5 years in the first round? Teams that fail do that. If you are gonna build your team around a defensive line, then they better ****ing be able to do something like the Giants d-line. I don't see much difference in the defense when Dorsey and TJax are out and replaced by their backups who were late round picks. honestly, I think we are going to have to start over again. But if it's not going to be done right, what's the ****ing point? We are going to battle for that #1 pick and honestly, I hope we lose every game this season just to get it. Start over. Do it right. Draft your skill positions in the first round. Starting with QB of course. |
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09-10-2012, 11:29 AM | #2 |
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09-10-2012, 11:30 AM | #3 |
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Dorsey will be gone after this season.
What they need to ****ing do is start getting Poe snaps at DE and Powe snaps at NT. This regime is so deadset on not admitting mistakes that they're setting back this franchise. |
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I would LOVE this...
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09-10-2012, 11:31 AM | #7 |
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3-4 2 gap system
the Dline is NEVER going to look impactful unless you get lucky and grab a Reggie White. the scheme is meant to unleash the linebackers it's also meant to blitz
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09-10-2012, 11:36 AM | #8 | |
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Ask yourself this question. Do you see any noticable difference in how our defense performs when our backups are in on the d-line? the backups that were street free agents or late round picks?
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09-10-2012, 11:39 AM | #9 | |
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Also, NT is far and away the most important position in the 3-4 defense and we have never really had one until this year. Look at the Giants. They were built around the d-line. The pats d-lines were great when they won Superbowls. The steelers had good d-lines. The colts had a great d-line. Having a good d-line is a piece to the puzzle. |
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09-10-2012, 11:47 AM | #10 | |
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The Giants got their guys in the 2nd and 3rd rounds. The Pats had Seymour but Wilfork was taken at the back of the first. The Steelers have a couple of guys from the late 1st but nobody in the top 10. And their top passrusher was an undrafted FA. Outside of Freeny at #11 overall, the Colts didn't invest top draft picks in linemen. What do most of those teams have in common? When they had a top 10 (or even top 5) pick, they took a QUARTERBACK. We've spent so many top draft picks on linemen that we're woefully thin on top-tier talent elsewhere. |
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To unleash the LBs shouldn't the DEs at least occupy more than just one guy on the opposing offense? Our DEs don't seem to do that. Every time there's a one to one stalemate between our DEs and the other guys we have lost the battle.
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09-10-2012, 11:32 AM | #13 |
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The D-line is important. The idea of spending 1st round picks on it isn't crazy. However, when the Pats did it they got guys like Seymour and Wilfork. The Chiefs haven't.
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If you don't get an elite,elite guy you end up with much the same production as you would with 'just a guy'
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which just means first round picks have to be impact players, scheme be damned you can't justify spending 3 top eleven picks on the DL if all they have to do is stop the run..you can justify spending a first round pick on JJ Watts
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