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First Round of 2013 Hall of Fame Nominees Includes 12 Chiefs
We dominate the selections, though only 1 of our guys played for the Chiefs his entire career.
Our nominees are: Ron Jaworski (also played a little for the Eagles) Priest Holmes Will Shields Albert Lewis Morten Andersen (also spent a little time with the Saints) Nick Lowery Curley Culp (one of the two senior committee nominees) Bud Carson Marty Schottenheimer Dick Vermeil Bobby Beathard (also spent time with a few other teams) Bill Polian (I think he was with the Colts for a while, too) My thoughts on who SHOULD go in (no particular order): Cris Carter - Obviously some people don't like him, but he should go in. He's way overdue. Larry Allen - Another obvious one. This guy intimidated other players. Joe Jacoby - I have no idea how Russ Grimm is in and Jacoby isn't. Jacoby was far and away the best player on that line. Will Shields - More pro bowls than fingers, and I'm sure he has at least ten fingers. Everson Walls - One of the three best cover corners I've ever seen, along with Deion and Albert Lewis. Kevin Greene - I have no idea why he's not in yet. He was a great player. Bud Adams - All of those old AFL owners should go in. Second tier (no particular order): Randall Cunningham - Dominant at his peak, simply dominant. Stanley Morgan - One of the best deep threats of his era. Very underrated. Rod Smith - I gotta admit, he was very productive for a long time in multiple ways. But yeah, I hate him. Charles Haley - I wasn't a fan, but he got things done. Karl Mecklenburg - As a Chiefs fan, I hated this guy. But that was mostly because he was blowing up our weak 80s teams. I really hate him. Albert Lewis - I hate to put Everson Walls above him, but I have to be honest. Morten Andersen - Not just a kicker. The kicker. Steve Sabol - Who doesn't love NFL Films? Now, that's who should go in. But it's not who WILL go in. The NFL likes offensive scoring and they like the guys on the media shows, so I think the people who will go in are: Larry Allen - Deserves it, and he's a Cowboy. Any doubts? Bud Adams - It's time and he's old. Steve Sabol - Emotional pick, but that's fine. Jerome Bettis - I like him, but he's overrated. Whatever. Charles Haley - Probably deserves it, and has a remaining shadow of Joe Montana Andre Reed - Overrated, but he'll get in. Warren Sapp - In the media. He's automatically in. Here's the full list: http://www.profootballhof.com/enshri...er_hofnominees * - First-year nominee ^ - Past finalist QUARTERBACKS First-year eligible Hall of Fame bylaws require that a player or a coach must have last been active at at least five full seasons before being eligible for consideration. There are 13 individuals among the 2013 modern-era nominees who are eligible for the first time. Sam Adams, DT Larry Allen, G Morten Andersen, K Priest Holmes, RB John Lynch, S Keenan McCardell, WR Steve McNair, QB Tom Nalen, C Jonathan Ogden, T Warren Sapp, DT Michael Strahan, DE Ted Washington, DT/NT Bryant Young, DE DREW BLEDSOE – 1993-2001 New England Patriots, 2002-04 Buffalo Bills, 2005-06 Dallas Cowboys RANDALL CUNNINGHAM – 1985-1995 Philadelphia Eagles, 1997-99 Minnesota Vikings, 2000 Dallas Cowboys, 2001 Baltimore Ravens RON JAWORSKI – 1974-76 Los Angeles Rams, 1977-1986 Philadelphia Eagles, 1988 Miami Dolphins, 1989 Kansas City Chiefs NEIL LOMAX – 1981-88 St. Louis/Phoenix Cardinals *STEVE McNAIR – 1995-2005 Houston/Tennessee Oilers/Titans, 2006-07 Baltimore Ravens PHIL SIMMS – 1979-1993 New York Giants, injured-1982 DANNY WHITE (also P) – 1976-1988 Dallas Cowboys RUNNING BACKS JAMAL ANDERSON – 1994-2001 Atlanta Falcons OTTIS ANDERSON – 1979-1986 St. Louis Cardinals, 1986-1992 New York Giants TIKI BARBER – 1997-2006 New York Giants ^JEROME BETTIS – 1993-95 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1996-2005 Pittsburgh Steelers LARRY CENTERS – 1990-98 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 1999-2000 Washington Redskins, 2001-02 Buffalo Bills, 2003 New England Patriots ^ROGER CRAIG – 1983-1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991 Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-93 Minnesota Vikings STEPHEN DAVIS – 1996-2002 Washington Redskins, 2003-05 Carolina Panthers, 2006 St. Louis Rams TERRELL DAVIS – 1995-2001 Denver Broncos EDDIE GEORGE – 1996-2003 Houston/Tennessee Oilers/Titans, 2004 Dallas Cowboys *PRIEST HOLMES – 1997-2000 Baltimore Ravens, 2001-05, 2007 Kansas City Chiefs BRIAN MITCHELL (also PR/KR) – 1990-99 Washington Redskins, 2000-02 Philadelphia Eagles, 2003 New York Giants GERALD RIGGS – 1982-88 Atlanta Falcons, 1989-1991 Washington Redskins HERSCHEL WALKER – 1986-89 Dallas Cowboys, 1989-1991 Minnesota Vikings, 1992-94 Philadelphia Eagles, 1995 New York Giants, 1996-97 Dallas Cowboys RICKY WATTERS – 1992-94 San Francisco 49ers, 1995-97 Philadelphia Eagles, 1998-2001 Seattle Seahawks WIDE RECEIVERS ^TIM BROWN (also KR) – 1988-2003 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders, 2004 Tampa Bay Buccaneers ^CRIS CARTER – 1987-89 Philadelphia Eagles, 1990-2001 Minnesota Vikings, 2002 Miami Dolphins GARY CLARK – 1985-1992 Washington Redskins, 1993-94 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 1995 Miami Dolphins MARK CLAYTON – 1983-1992 Miami Dolphins, 1993 Green Bay Packers HENRY ELLARD (also PR) – 1983-1993 Los Angeles Rams, 1994-98 Washington Redskins, 1998 New England Patriots KEYSHAWN JOHNSON – 1996-99 New York Jets; 2000-03 Tampa Bay Buccaneers; 2004-05 Dallas Cowboys, 2006 Carolina Panthers *KEENAN McCARDELL – 1991, 2007 Washington Redskins, 1992-95 Cleveland Browns, 1996-2001 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2002-03 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-06 San Diego Chargers STANLEY MORGAN – 1977-1989 New England Patriots, 1990 Indianapolis Colts ^ANDRE REED – 1985-1999 Buffalo Bills, 2000 Washington Redskins STERLING SHARPE – 1988-1994 Green Bay Packers JIMMY SMITH – 1992 Dallas Cowboys, 1995-2005 Jacksonville Jaguars ROD SMITH – 1995-2006 Denver Broncos TIGHT ENDS TODD CHRISTENSEN – 1979 New York Giants, 1979-1988 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders BEN COATES – 1991-99 New England Patriots, 2000 Baltimore Ravens OFFENSIVE LINEMEN *LARRY ALLEN (G) – 1994-2005 Dallas Cowboys, 2006-07 San Francisco 49ers TONY BOSELLI (T) – 1995-2001 Jacksonville Jaguars, 2002 Houston Texans (injured reserve) LOMAS BROWN (T) – 1985-1995 Detroit Lions, 1996-98 Arizona Cardinals, 1999 Cleveland Browns, 2000-01 New York Giants, 2002 Tampa Bay Buccaneers JIM COVERT (T) – 1983-1990 Chicago Bears JOE FIELDS (C) – 1975-1987 New York Jets, 1988 New York Giants BILL FRALIC (G/T) – 1985-1992 Atlanta Falcons, 1993 Detroit Lions JEFF HARTINGS (G/C) – 1996-2000 Detroit Lions, 2001-2006 Pittsburgh Steelers JAY HILGENBERG (C) – 1981-1991 Chicago Bears, 1992 Cleveland Browns, 1993 New Orleans Saints CHRIS HINTON (G/T) – 1983-89 Baltimore/Indianapolis Colts, 1990-93 Atlanta Falcons, 1994-95 Minnesota Vikings KENT HULL (C) – 1986-1996 Buffalo Bills JOE JACOBY (T) – 1981-1993 Washington Redskins MIKE KENN (T) – 1978-1994 Atlanta Falcons JIM LACHEY (T) – 1985-87 San Diego Chargers, 1988 Los Angeles Raiders, 1988-1992, 1994-95 Washington Redskins *TOM NALEN (C) – 1994-2007 Denver Broncos *JONATHAN OGDEN (T) – 1996-2007 Baltimore Ravens WILL SHIELDS (G) – 1993-2006 Kansas City Chiefs ERIK WILLIAMS (T) – 1991-2000 Dallas Cowboys, 2001 Baltimore Ravens STEVE WISNIEWSKI (G) – 1989-2001 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders DEFENSIVE LINEMEN *SAM ADAMS (DT) – 1994-99 Seattle Seahawks, 2000-01 Baltimore Ravens, 2002 Oakland Raiders, 2003-05 Buffalo Bills, 2006 Cincinnati Bengals, 2007 Denver Broncos CARL HAIRSTON (DE/DT) – 1976-1983 Philadelphia Eagles, 1984-89 Cleveland Browns, 1990 Phoenix Cardinals ^CHARLES HALEY (DE/LB) – 1986-1991, 1999 San Francisco 49ers, 1992-96 Dallas Cowboys ED “TOO TALL” JONES (DE) – 1974-78, 1980-89 Dallas Cowboys JOE KLECKO (DE/DT/NT) – 1977-1987 New York Jets, 1988 Indianapolis Colts DEXTER MANLEY (DE) – 1981-89 Washington Redskins, 1990 Phoenix Cardinals, 1991 Tampa Bay Buccaneers CHARLES MANN (DE) – 1983-1993 Washington Redskins, 1994 San Francisco 49ers *WARREN SAPP (DT) – 1995-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Oakland Raiders FRED SMERLAS (NT) – 1979-1989 Buffalo Bills, 1990 San Francisco 49ers, 1991-92 New England Patriots *MICHAEL STRAHAN (DE) – 1993-2007 New York Giants *TED WASHINGTON (DT/NT) – 1991-93 San Francisco 49ers, 1994 Denver Broncos, 1995-2000 Buffalo Bills, 2001-02 Chicago Bears, 2003 New England Patriots, 2004-05 Oakland Raiders, 2006-07 Cleveland Browns *BRYANT YOUNG (DE) – 1994-2007 San Francisco 49ers LINEBACKERS CORNELIUS BENNETT – 1987-1995 Buffalo Bills, 1996-98 Atlanta Falcons, 1999-2000 Indianapolis Colts ^KEVIN GREENE (also DE) – 1985-1992 Los Angeles Rams, 1993-95 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1996, 1998-99 Carolina Panthers, 1997 San Francisco 49ers KEN HARVEY – 1988-1993 Phoenix Cardinals, 1994-98 Washington Redskins CLAY MATTHEWS – 1978-1993 Cleveland Browns, 1994-96 Atlanta Falcons KARL MECKLENBURG – 1983-1994 Denver Broncos SAM MILLS – 1986-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-97 Carolina Panthers DARRYL TALLEY – 1983-1994 Buffalo Bills, 1995 Atlanta Falcons, 1996 Minnesota Vikings DEFENSIVE BACKS ERIC ALLEN (CB) – 1988-1994 Philadelphia Eagles, 1995-97 New Orleans Saints, 1998-2001 Oakland Raiders STEVE ATWATER (S) – 1989-1998 Denver Broncos, 1999 New York Jets JOEY BROWNER (S) – 1983-1991 Minnesota Vikings, 1992 Tampa Bay Buccaneers LEROY BUTLER (S) – 1990-2001 Green Bay Packers NOLAN CROMWELL (S) – 1977-1987 Los Angeles Rams ALBERT LEWIS (CB) – 1983-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-98 Los Angeles/Oakland Raiders *JOHN LYNCH (S) – 1993-2003 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 2004-07 Denver Broncos DENNIS SMITH (S) – 1981-1994 Denver Broncos TROY VINCENT (CB – 1992-95 Miami Dolphins, 1996-2003 Philadelphia Eagles, 2004-06 Buffalo Bills, 2006 Washington Redskins EVERSON WALLS (CB) – 1981-89 Dallas Cowboys, 1990-92 New York Giants, 1992-93 Cleveland Browns ^AENEAS WILLIAMS (CB/S) – 1991-2000 Phoenix/Arizona Cardinals, 2001-04 St. Louis Rams DARREN WOODSON (S) – 1992-2003 Dallas Cowboys KICKERS/PUNTERS *MORTEN ANDERSEN (K) – 1982-1994 New Orleans Saints, 1995-2000, 2006-07 Atlanta Falcons, 2001 New York Giants, 2002-03 Kansas City Chiefs, 2004 Minnesota Vikings GARY ANDERSON (K) – 1982-1994 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1995-96 Philadelphia Eagles, 1997 San Francisco 49ers, 1998-2002 Minnesota Vikings, 2003-04 Tennessee Titans SEAN LANDETA (P) – 1985-1993 New York Giants, 1993-96, 2003-04 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1997 Tampa Bay Buccaneers, 1998 Green Bay Packers, 1999-2002, 2005 Philadelphia Eagles NICK LOWERY (K) – 1978 New England Patriots, 1980-1993 Kansas City Chiefs, 1994-96 New York Jets SPECIAL TEAMS STEVE TASKER (also WR) – 1985-86 Houston Oilers, 1986-1997 Buffalo Bills COACHES BILL ARNSPARGER – 1964-69 Baltimore Colts, 1970-73, 1976-1983 Miami Dolphins, 1974-76 New York Giants DOUG BLEVINS – 1995-97, 1999 World League/NFL Europe, 1997-2003 Miami Dolphins BUD CARSON – 1971-77 Pittsburgh Steelers, 1978-81, 1997 Los Angeles/St. Louis Rams, 1982 Baltimore Colts, 1983 Kansas City Chiefs, 1985-88 New York Jets, 1989-1990 Cleveland Browns, 1991-94 Philadelphia Eagles ^DON CORYELL – 1973-77 St. Louis Cardinals, 1978-1986 San Diego Chargers BILL COWHER – 1992-2006 Pittsburgh Steelers TOM FLORES – 1979-1987 Oakland/Los Angeles Raiders, 1992-94 Seattle Seahawks JIMMY JOHNSON – 1989-1993 Dallas Cowboys, 1996-99 Miami Dolphins CHUCK KNOX – 1973-77 Los Angeles Rams, 1978-1982 Buffalo Bills, 1983-1991 Seattle Seahawks, 1992-94 Los Angeles Rams ^BILL PARCELLS – 1983-1990 New York Giants, 1993-96 New England Patriots, 1997-99 New York Jets, 2003-06 Dallas Cowboys BUDDY PARKER – 1949 Chicago Cardinals, 1951-56 Detroit Lions, 1957-1964 Pittsburgh Steelers DAN REEVES – 1981-1992 Denver Broncos, 1993-96 New York Giants, 1997-2003 Atlanta Falcons MARTY SCHOTTENHEIMER – 1984-88 Cleveland Browns, 1989-1998 Kansas City Chiefs, 2001 Washington Redskins, 2002-06 San Diego Chargers CLARK SHAUGHNESSY – 1944-47 Washington Redskins, 1948-49 Los Angeles Rams, 1951-1962 Chicago Bears DICK VERMEIL – 1976-1982 Philadelphia Eagles, 1997-99 St. Louis Rams, 2001-05 Kansas City Chiefs CONTRIBUTORS K.S. “BUD” ADAMS, JR. 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09-29-2012, 10:02 PM | #2 |
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It would be a goddamn crime If Larry Allen gets in before Shields.
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Get ready for it. You love Will and I love Will and we all know he's the greatest guard ever, but Larry Allen is a Cowboy with rings and is going to step in line in front of him.
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09-29-2012, 10:08 PM | #4 |
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i am thinking shields
jacoby and gawd forgive me atwater
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09-29-2012, 10:13 PM | #5 |
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I figure Strahan will get it on the first time.
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09-29-2012, 10:14 PM | #6 |
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Sabol is derservedly in from the first time.
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09-29-2012, 10:16 PM | #7 |
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Doesn't Sabol have to be dead for 5 years before he can get in?
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09-29-2012, 10:18 PM | #9 |
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I think contributors to the game don't have to be out for five years. Ralph Wilson went in with DT, and he's still the owner of the Bills.
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09-29-2012, 11:39 PM | #10 |
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I could have sworn Mecklenberg was already in the Hall
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09-30-2012, 12:02 AM | #11 |
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It would be a goddamned shame if Parcells gets in before Flores. Not only was Flores once a Chief, he won two Super Bowls with two different QB's (before Parcells did it) and he was the first minority coach to win a Super Bowl.
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09-30-2012, 12:11 AM | #12 |
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Shields is easily my favorite football player of all time.
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09-30-2012, 12:34 AM | #13 |
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sabol the nfl films guy?
put him in now
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09-30-2012, 08:52 AM | #14 |
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I think the fact that Shields is a guard on a team that never made it to the SB or won one will hurt his chances for a while. Although he was dominant, guard is not that valued (remember the draft talk in regards to guards). I do think he will get in one day, but not for many years. If Cris Carter is still not in, there is no way Shields does. I do think Carter gets it this year as he is long overdue.
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09-30-2012, 09:00 AM | #15 |
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And still no love for Otis Taylor!!!
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