Chiefs Gretz weighs in on the GM situation

FloridaMan88 · 12-30-2012, 09:19 PM

Another solid write-up from Bob Gretz (hell must have frozen over for me to type that):

http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...lark-hunt.html

Column: Defining Moment Ahead For Clark Hunt

I would not begin to even think that I could read the mind of Clark Hunt and what his plans are for the Hunt Family football team.

Chiefs Nation has their fingers, toes, even eyes crossed that New Year’s Eve 2012 will be the moment when the madness and losing of the Pioli Era will end and a new future will be laid out for the football team.

Two months ago, my personal opinion was that Hunt didn’t have the guts to admit his mistake and fire Pioli. Now, after everything that happened with his franchise over the last four months, I’m not sure Hunt has the guts not to make a big change. How could he possibly ignore what’s gone down with the Chiefs and why they are the NFL’s worst team in 2012?

Well, let me assure you he can, and he might. I don’t think it’s a lead-pipe cinch that the hurricane of change roils through the franchise. The fans and media think that Hunt has to be embarrassed and angry with the performance of his team on the field under Pioli’s direction. They are now 23-42 after losing Sunday in Denver, some 19 games under .500 and far removed from being a championship contender.

I do believe Hunt wants a winning team. What I don’t know, and we all don’t know, is just how important winning is on his radar screen. There may be other areas and avenues of the organization that rank higher on his list of goals. That remains a mystery.

Or, at least it will be in the shadows until he explains what his immediate plans are for the organization. If he keeps Pioli, it will provide everyone with an emphatic answer that winning is not the most important item on his agenda.

A 2-14 season cries out for some sort of reply from ownership. Firing/retiring Romeo Crennel is not going to be a big enough change. There’s no question the Chiefs coaching staff was not a strong one and that doesn’t just fall at the feet of Crennel, not in an organization where Pioli has his finger in every pie and the willingness to overrule any notion that is not his.

For four years now, we have seen that this fish rots from the head down. Now, Clark Hunt will show us if he was the problem ahead of Pioli.

The immediate future of the team depends on what he decides. This is not just a move about changing the names in the office directory. This franchise must reconnect with its fans. There needs to be profound change in the way business is conducted by the Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, Inc.

A red and gold nation awaits a moment where Clark Hunt makes a decision that shows he understands and he has listened.

But, don’t be surprised if he says he does understand and has listened but is going to keep his general manager while sacrificing his head coach.

Anything is possible.

**DaFace** · 12-30-2012, 10:04 PM

I thought this was a good enough article to copy it out of the SOC thread and into its own. Mega threads suck.

siberian khatru · 12-30-2012, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

I thought this was a good enough article to copy it out of the SOC thread and into its own. Mega threads suck.

Do more of that, please.

I see that thread I keep thinking it's just more organizing protests. I think "news" should be separate from it.

**DaFace** · 12-30-2012, 10:13 PM

He kind of alludes to a good point. Up to this point, all of the ire has been pointed at Pioli. If Clark lets Pioli stick around, it's a clear indicator that winning isn't the most important goal he has. At that point, the fans' ire turns to Clark. That's potentially a huge turning point for this franchise.

**dirk digler** · 12-30-2012, 10:18 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

He kind of alludes to a good point. Up to this point, all of the ire has been pointed at Pioli. If Clark lets Pioli stick around, it's a clear indicator that winning isn't the most important goal he has. At that point, the fans' ire turns to Clark. That's potentially a huge turning point for this franchise.

I have been saying for the last couple of years Clark is THE PROBLEM so now he has a chance to prove me wrong. Hope he does.

**Bob Dole** · 12-30-2012, 10:31 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

He kind of alludes to a good point. Up to this point, all of the ire has been pointed at Pioli. If Clark lets Pioli stick around, it's a clear indicator that winning isn't the most important goal he has. At that point, the fans' ire turns to Clark. That's potentially a huge turning point for this franchise.

Bob Dole's question then becomes: What goal has Pioli achieved?

**DaFace** · 12-30-2012, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob Dole

Bob Dole's question then becomes: What goal has Pioli achieved?

Well, the rumor is that Pioli has made Clark a ton of money. But then, I would anticipate that next season's attendance would be worse than this one if Pioli is kept around, so that's not even something that will be a likely accomplishment in the future.

DJ's left nut · 12-30-2012, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

He kind of alludes to a good point. Up to this point, all of the ire has been pointed at Pioli. If Clark lets Pioli stick around, it's a clear indicator that winning isn't the most important goal he has. At that point, the fans' ire turns to Clark. That's potentially a huge turning point for this franchise.

That's what I was saying in the 'do you come back to Arrowhead' thread/poll.

The "I'm out until Pioli is gone" option that's running away with the poll is just stupid. If Scott Pioli is retained, it's Clark Hunt that will have to go before I come back.

If Pioli returns, he's not the problem. At that point we have Bill Bidwell in charge. Or Mike Brown. Or William Clay Ford.

Clark Hunt will join that list of infamously horrid owners. And he won't join the list of meddlesome ones that want to win like Snyder or Jones or Davis. Those guys at least manage to win stuff here and there. No, he's going to join the list full of disinterested, cheap one who sucks the peniss that don't care about the team and want nothing more than to take your money and employ their buddies. Bidwell, Brown, Ford....Hunt.

And here's the good news, fellas - he's young. He's really really young.

He's going to outlive 1/2 of this board.

If he brings back Scott Pioli, this team is dead to me until Hunt is gone. I will not have a billionaire tell me to **** myself and then shake me by my feet for loose change.

**MahiMike** · 12-31-2012, 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That's what I was saying in the 'do you come back to Arrowhead' thread/poll.

The "I'm out until Pioli is gone" option that's running away with the poll is just stupid. If Scott Pioli is retained, it's Clark Hunt that will have to go before I come back.

If Pioli returns, he's not the problem. At that point we have Bill Bidwell in charge. Or Mike Brown. Or William Clay Ford.

Clark Hunt will join that list of infamously horrid owners. And he won't join the list of meddlesome ones that want to win like Snyder or Jones or Davis. Those guys at least manage to win stuff here and there. No, he's going to join the list full of disinterested, cheap one who sucks the peniss that don't care about the team and want nothing more than to take your money and employ their buddies. Bidwell, Brown, Ford....Hunt.

And here's the good news, fellas - he's young. He's really really young.

He's going to outlive 1/2 of this board.

If he brings back Scott Pioli, this team is dead to me until Hunt is gone. I will not have a billionaire tell me to **** myself and then shake me by my feet for loose change.

Are there any more Pakistani Billionaires in this country that can buy Clark out?

Rasputin · 12-31-2012, 08:25 AM

I don't get how Clark Hunt would spend that extra money for the remodel of Arrowhead just to see an empty stadium. That's what he is going to get.

Dayze · 12-31-2012, 08:33 AM

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Originally Posted by KC Tattoo

I don't get how Clark Hunt would spend that extra money for the remodel of Arrowhead just to see an empty stadium. That's what he is going to get.

and don't forget the taxpayers. thanks Clark!!

|Zach| · 12-30-2012, 11:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

He kind of alludes to a good point. Up to this point, all of the ire has been pointed at Pioli. If Clark lets Pioli stick around, it's a clear indicator that winning isn't the most important goal he has. At that point, the fans' ire turns to Clark. That's potentially a huge turning point for this franchise.

I made this point in a thread a few weeks ago and got shit on. Heh.

**jAZ** · 12-30-2012, 11:50 PM

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Originally Posted by DaFace

He kind of alludes to a good point. Up to this point, all of the ire has been pointed at Pioli. If Clark lets Pioli stick around, it's a clear indicator that winning isn't the most important goal he has. At that point, the fans' ire turns to Clark. That's potentially a huge turning point for this franchise.

That doesn't make sense to me.

Pioli has lost both games and fans.

If Clark keeps Pioli, it's not because he is happy with the direction of the francise (either games or $$). But because he still believes Pioli can deliver.

I have defended Pioli about as long as anyone else around here. That said, I don't want him hiring a 3rd coach. His first choice might have been Kirk Farentz all along. I don't much care if he can get his 1st choice now. He seems pretty bad at that part of his job, if nothing else.

Ebolapox · 12-30-2012, 10:24 PM

wonder if he has his finger on the pulse of the fanbase. he CAN'T be this obtuse, can he? clark, clark clark... don't do this to the franchise.

**cdcox** · 12-30-2012, 10:28 PM

Good to see the KC media isn't going to allow Hunt a free pass if he decides to keep Pioli.

12-30-2012, 09:19 PM	Topic Starter
FloridaMan88 Mahomes: We Are All Witnesses Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Miami, FL Casino cash: $-547094	Another solid write-up from Bob Gretz (hell must have frozen over for me to type that): http://www.bobgretz.com/chiefs-footb...lark-hunt.html Column: Defining Moment Ahead For Clark Hunt I would not begin to even think that I could read the mind of Clark Hunt and what his plans are for the Hunt Family football team. Chiefs Nation has their fingers, toes, even eyes crossed that New Year’s Eve 2012 will be the moment when the madness and losing of the Pioli Era will end and a new future will be laid out for the football team. Two months ago, my personal opinion was that Hunt didn’t have the guts to admit his mistake and fire Pioli. Now, after everything that happened with his franchise over the last four months, I’m not sure Hunt has the guts not to make a big change. How could he possibly ignore what’s gone down with the Chiefs and why they are the NFL’s worst team in 2012? Well, let me assure you he can, and he might. I don’t think it’s a lead-pipe cinch that the hurricane of change roils through the franchise. The fans and media think that Hunt has to be embarrassed and angry with the performance of his team on the field under Pioli’s direction. They are now 23-42 after losing Sunday in Denver, some 19 games under .500 and far removed from being a championship contender. I do believe Hunt wants a winning team. What I don’t know, and we all don’t know, is just how important winning is on his radar screen. There may be other areas and avenues of the organization that rank higher on his list of goals. That remains a mystery. Or, at least it will be in the shadows until he explains what his immediate plans are for the organization. If he keeps Pioli, it will provide everyone with an emphatic answer that winning is not the most important item on his agenda. A 2-14 season cries out for some sort of reply from ownership. Firing/retiring Romeo Crennel is not going to be a big enough change. There’s no question the Chiefs coaching staff was not a strong one and that doesn’t just fall at the feet of Crennel, not in an organization where Pioli has his finger in every pie and the willingness to overrule any notion that is not his. For four years now, we have seen that this fish rots from the head down. Now, Clark Hunt will show us if he was the problem ahead of Pioli. The immediate future of the team depends on what he decides. This is not just a move about changing the names in the office directory. This franchise must reconnect with its fans. There needs to be profound change in the way business is conducted by the Kansas City Chiefs Football Club, Inc. A red and gold nation awaits a moment where Clark Hunt makes a decision that shows he understands and he has listened. But, don’t be surprised if he says he does understand and has listened but is going to keep his general manager while sacrificing his head coach. Anything is possible.
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DaFace Kind of a mod Join Date: Aug 2005 Location: Donkey Land Casino cash: $-1683101	He kind of alludes to a good point. Up to this point, all of the ire has been pointed at Pioli. If Clark lets Pioli stick around, it's a clear indicator that winning isn't the most important goal he has. At that point, the fans' ire turns to Clark. That's potentially a huge turning point for this franchise.
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Ebolapox remember, remember Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: como Casino cash: $-1590097	wonder if he has his finger on the pulse of the fanbase. he CAN'T be this obtuse, can he? clark, clark clark... don't do this to the franchise.
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cdcox www.nfl-forecast.com Join Date: Sep 2000 Casino cash: $-478231	Good to see the KC media isn't going to allow Hunt a free pass if he decides to keep Pioli.
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