Football PFF anyone....

DTLB58 · 03-19-2013, 06:09 PM

Pro Football Focus ‏@PFF 5h

Want to join the PFF team? Now is your chance https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-the-pff-team/ …

I seriously considered this because I have been looking for something else to do but they want major commitments for deadlines (which is to be expected) on Sunday nights, MonDAYS and TuesDAYS. Which when I finally get back to work after this knee replacement surgery recovery I wont be able to commit that time.

Whether you agree or not with their rating system I think a person could really learn a lot more about the game because of how much is required in game film study.

Anyways, I just thought I would throw it out there in case somebody who was interested didn't see it on their site or twitter. Good luck.

**AustinChief** · 03-19-2013, 06:18 PM

HAHAHAHA.. waiting for GoChiefs to tell me again how they employ EXPERTS to break down game film.

It's just regular people watching regular game film. This is fine for a good amount of stats (like # of snaps participated in, etc etc) but there are a ton of "stats" they purport to collect that I wouldn't trust Joe Fan to "analyze".

The worst part is that (at least in the past I don't know the current practices) don't have any oversight. It's not like 5 guys watch the same film and they normalize the data from there.

I'll give them credit though, it's a fantastic scam they have sold people on!

Chiefnj2 · 03-19-2013, 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

HAHAHAHA.. waiting for GoChiefs to tell me again how they employ EXPERTS to break down game film.

It's just regular people watching regular game film. This is fine for a good amount of stats (like # of snaps participated in, etc etc) but there are a ton of "stats" they purport to collect that I wouldn't trust Joe Fan to "analyze".

The worst part is that (at least in the past I don't know the current practices) don't have any oversight. It's not like 5 guys watch the same film and they normalize the data from there.

I'll give them credit though, it's a fantastic scam they have sold people on!

Yep, regular broadcast tv. It's a great scam especially DB and WR ratings where you generally don't get a good view of the field unless a particular player is targeted.

Quesadilla Joe · 03-19-2013, 07:55 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

HAHAHAHA.. waiting for GoChiefs to tell me again how they employ EXPERTS to break down game film.

It's just regular people watching regular game film. This is fine for a good amount of stats (like # of snaps participated in, etc etc) but there are a ton of "stats" they purport to collect that I wouldn't trust Joe Fan to "analyze".

The worst part is that (at least in the past I don't know the current practices) don't have any oversight. It's not like 5 guys watch the same film and they normalize the data from there.

I'll give them credit though, it's a fantastic scam they have sold people on!

There was an article in Sports Illustrated sometime last year that talked about how some NFL teams are actually starting to use Football Outsiders and Pro Football Focus.

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"There's so much information out there, it'd be foolish not to use these resources," says Khan, referring to the growing number of websites that do their own play-by-play charting—sites such as Pro Football Focus, the brainchild of Englishman Neil Hornsby, who now has 26 employees analyzing video of every game and supplying data to seven teams.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...08/1/index.htm

Sorter · 03-19-2013, 07:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

There was an article in Sports Illustrated sometime last year that talked about how some NFL teams are actually starting to use Football Outsiders and Pro Football Focus.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...08/1/index.htm

WTF KnowMo?

Quesadilla Joe · 03-19-2013, 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Ponderception

WTF KnowMo?

I'm done with that bet. I've honored it long enough, it was only supposed to go until the combine but I was getting shit ready for the watch party and didn't have time to argue with PGM about it.

**AustinChief** · 03-19-2013, 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

There was an article in Sports Illustrated sometime last year that talked about how some NFL teams are actually starting to use Football Outsiders and Pro Football Focus.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...08/1/index.htm

Old news. Some of the stats (the ones that any monkey can record) are useful and accurate... BUT any team would be beyond stupid to take the more subjective "judgment call" stats seriously.

I also would wager that they don't realize what a slipshod organization PFF is. I can't comment on FOs methodology.

**LoneWolf** · 03-19-2013, 08:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Cassel>Manning

There was an article in Sports Illustrated sometime last year that talked about how some NFL teams are actually starting to use Football Outsiders and Pro Football Focus.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/vau...08/1/index.htm

Do some research you welching bitch. The teams that get information from PFF use it for the mundane stats like number of snaps played an such. It's easier to let some limey blokes in England compile these stats than use valuable time doing it themselves.

Not one team is actually using PFF to evaluate player's performance.

**LoneWolf** · 03-19-2013, 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DTLB58

Pro Football Focus ‏@PFF 5h

Want to join the PFF team? Now is your chance https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-the-pff-team/ …

I seriously considered this because I have been looking for something else to do but they want major commitments for deadlines (which is to be expected) on Sunday nights, MonDAYS and TuesDAYS. Which when I finally get back to work after this knee replacement surgery recovery I wont be able to commit that time.

Whether you agree or not with their rating system I think a person could really learn a lot more about the game because of how much is required in game film study.

Anyways, I just thought I would throw it out there in case somebody who was interested didn't see it on their site or twitter. Good luck.

Uh, no. And just in case you were going to ask, I'm not going to dress up like Iron Man and attend Comicon.

It's nice to know that a group of uninformed Joe Fans have decided which players are good and which ones suck. Clay's Bible, what a ****ing joke.

Direckshun · 03-19-2013, 06:36 PM

Do you guys think I should apply?

We should make this a ChiefsPlanet venture: get Direckshun a PFF gig.

Using the collective resources of ChiefsPlanet, I bet we could get this done.

I could probably get an endorsement from the editors of Arrowhead Pride, Arrowhead Addict, and hopefully somebody like AustinChief for ChiefsPlanet, here.

What do you guys think?

**LoneWolf** · 03-19-2013, 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Do you guys think I should apply?

We should make this a ChiefsPlanet venture: get Direckshun a PFF gig.

Using the collective resources of ChiefsPlanet, I bet we could get this done.

All you should have to do is send them some of your mock drafts. They'll be happy to add you to their cess pool of fail after reading some of that garbage.

Direckshun · 03-19-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by LoneWolf

All you should have to do is send them some of your mock drafts. They'll be happy to add you to their cess pool of fail after reading some of that garbage.

I've now got the famous Mr. Wendler of SB Nation endorsing me.

I must now do this. I know the Thormans and Patrick Allen of Arrowhead Addict so I could always drop them as references.

I will be emailing the folks in the OP's link within the hour. I'll update this thread on my progress. We'll see if this dog hunts.

**AustinChief** · 03-19-2013, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Direckshun

Do you guys think I should apply?

We should make this a ChiefsPlanet venture: get Direckshun a PFF gig.

Using the collective resources of ChiefsPlanet, I bet we could get this done.

Screw that, with the people we have here, we could recreate PFF ourselves. Couldn't be any LESS accurate!

Hell, require our "analysts" to use the ALL-22 and High End Zone views that are now available and we'd have a better product!

I can create the backend for it if cdcox wants to join up and write the data analysis portion!

Direckshun · 03-19-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Hell, require our "analysts" to use the ALL-22 and High End Zone views that are now available and we'd have a better product!

I can create the backend for it if cdcox wants to join up and write the data analysis portion!

Awesome.

**Bowser** · 03-19-2013, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by AustinChief

Screw that, with the people we have here, we could recreate PFF ourselves. Couldn't be any LESS accurate!

Hell, require our "analysts" to use the ALL-22 and High End Zone views that are now available and we'd have a better product!

I can create the backend for it if cdcox wants to join up and write the data analysis portion!

This is where ChiefsPlanet ascends to the Next Level.

03-19-2013, 06:09 PM	Topic Starter
DTLB58 DT CARD COLLECTOR Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: ManCave Casino cash: $10005837	PFF anyone.... Pro Football Focus ‏@PFF 5h Want to join the PFF team? Now is your chance https://www.profootballfocus.com/blo...-the-pff-team/ … I seriously considered this because I have been looking for something else to do but they want major commitments for deadlines (which is to be expected) on Sunday nights, MonDAYS and TuesDAYS. Which when I finally get back to work after this knee replacement surgery recovery I wont be able to commit that time. Whether you agree or not with their rating system I think a person could really learn a lot more about the game because of how much is required in game film study. Anyways, I just thought I would throw it out there in case somebody who was interested didn't see it on their site or twitter. Good luck.
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03-19-2013, 06:18 PM	#2
AustinChief Administrator Join Date: Aug 2000 Location: Austin Casino cash: $2349112	HAHAHAHA.. waiting for GoChiefs to tell me again how they employ EXPERTS to break down game film. It's just regular people watching regular game film. This is fine for a good amount of stats (like # of snaps participated in, etc etc) but there are a ton of "stats" they purport to collect that I wouldn't trust Joe Fan to "analyze". The worst part is that (at least in the past I don't know the current practices) don't have any oversight. It's not like 5 guys watch the same film and they normalize the data from there. I'll give them credit though, it's a fantastic scam they have sold people on!
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03-19-2013, 06:36 PM	#10
Direckshun __ Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Springpatch Casino cash: $4183447	Do you guys think I should apply? We should make this a ChiefsPlanet venture: get Direckshun a PFF gig. Using the collective resources of ChiefsPlanet, I bet we could get this done. I could probably get an endorsement from the editors of Arrowhead Pride, Arrowhead Addict, and hopefully somebody like AustinChief for ChiefsPlanet, here. What do you guys think?
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