Fatal flaw in QB play

[O.city]

Slow day here, let's drive some conversation.

With the Rams moving up for a qb and these young qbs coming into the league taking over for the old guard, I think there are some interesting questions to be asked.

When looking at qb prospects, which "flaws" that they might have do you consider fatal?

So now you may ask, "o.city, define fatal flaws". Well, to me, it's inconsistencies that can't be learned or corrected.

The biggest one to me for a young qb, is accuracy issues. I feel too much of that is an innate thing that either you have or you dont and I consider qbs who struggle with accuracy to have a fatal flaw.

So, which flaws do you consider fatal?

[threebag]

Not running a pro style offense in college. Gimmicks suck

[O.city]

Originally Posted by threebag02

Not running a pro style offense in college. Gimmicks suck

I'm talking more in the qb himself, physically mentally etc.

I think a guy can be taught to run any type of offense if he's willing aND intelligent enough.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by O.city

I'm talking more in the qb himself, physically mentally etc.

I think a guy can be taught to run any type of offense if he's willing aND intelligent enough.

Yeah, over time. Hell, it takes pro style guys time to adapt to the speed and reads of the NFL. You can add X amount of time to it when you have a spread option guy coming in making the transition.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by Bowser

Yeah, over time. Hell, it takes pro style guys time to adapt to the speed and reads of the NFL. You can add X amount of time to it when you have a spread option guy coming in making the transition.

I think the pro style stuff is a little dated. The nfl is full of spread concepts, it's not the old 2 wr single tight I back stuff of the old days.

But where I feel you're going here isn't as much pro style vs spread, it's more interpreting exotic defenses and running the show themselves.

In college, these guys are asked to change line calls at the los, change plays due to defense etc.

I think that's the biggest difference.

[Bowser]

Originally Posted by threebag02

Not running a pro style offense in college. Gimmicks suck

This. The Heisman winning spread option QB has generally been shit in the league either due to limitations with the QB or coaching staffs not having any clue what to do with them (with Cam and Mariota apparently being exceptions. Maybe Tannehill, too).

[SAUTO]

Balls, if they don't have them I consider that a fatal flaw

[threebag]

Having the intellectual aptitude to read and react to defense is far superior to arm strength. The strongest arm on the field really doesn't mean shit when half of his/her passes are equivilant to punts.

[RunKC]

1. Confidence
2. Accuracy
3. Work ethic

You can't teach any of those.

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

1. Confidence
2. Accuracy
3. Work ethic

You can't teach any of those.

I think confidence aND work ethic can be, not taught but maybe incorporated for lack of better term?

Confidence comes from success, success comes from prep, so it's hand in hand I guess.

[RunKC]

Originally Posted by O.city

I think confidence aND work ethic can be, not taught but maybe incorporated for lack of better term?

Confidence comes from success, success comes from prep, so it's hand in hand I guess.

If you're having to teach those things to a 22 year old than you're screwed

[O.city]

Originally Posted by RunKC

If you're having to teach those things to a 22 year old than you're screwed

True.

But guys aren't making it to the nfl without confidence and work ethic.

[TigeRRUppeRRcut]

Originally Posted by RunKC

1. Confidence
2. Accuracy
3. Work ethic

You can't teach any of those.

Amen. For number 4: I would have to add discipline/demeanor (on/off the field)

Wilson, Rodgers, Smith, Manning all had these qualities in their college days. unfortunately for Smith, he got thrown into the shit storm known as san francisco and had an entire fan base against him which destroyed his confidence as it would have to any other QB. Now he's got his mojo back.

[O.city]

I would probably go with accuracy and pocket awareness. I think you can tweek them a little with mechanics and teps, but when you're talking muscle memory, it's pretty difficult.

So much goes into being accurate. Mechanics, timing, anticipation etc.

[TimeForWasp]

Over hyped college QBs with too much confidence. The cocky ones crash and burn.