Defense narrative is wrong on this game

[jerryaldini]

Chiefs lost because on 10 offensive possessions they scored 13 points. They had plenty of possessions. When you can't convert 1st downs your TOP suffers. It's simply wrong that Indys rush game was why they won. Chiefs gave up 4 ypc, league average, and only 330 total.

Lots of running requires long drives with many opportunities to be stopped, which the chiefs did every drive except the first. Unless you convert those to TDs you aren't scoring enough to win in the modern NFL without a great defense. 19 points won't get it done.

Even in the AFCCG the chiefs only yielded 3.7 ypc. But they couldn't stop the short pass game and gave up 7 TDs. This year's team is getting stops at key times the last two weeks. This week they eliminated big plays except the PI.

The defense has not been good. But it's been good enough to be 5-0, and is getting better. Online is trash, and is not helped by Andy never running the ball or enough screens/draws to keep the opposing D line honest. We get Mo next week and hopefully a trade or two to add a DB and possibly front 7 piece. Chiefs are gonna getcha, yarhoooo.

[SDChiefs]

No. Our defense sucks. Our defense is good enough to win because mahomes, is not an excuse. Mahomes is putting up record numbers without wr1 and 2 now, and lt1 and gore saying it's not the defenses fault. Mahomes shouldn't have to carry the d.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

No. Our defense sucks. Our defense is good enough to win because mahomes, is not an excuse. Mahomes is putting up record numbers without wr1 and 2 now, and lt1 and gore saying it's not the defenses fault. Mahomes shouldn't have to carry the d.

Normally I would agree, but regarding today OP is right. On a day where the offense was firing on all cylinders we would've run away with this one. The pass protection was horrendous and the play calling and clock management might have been even worse. The defense made some great plays despite being on the field for what probably amounted to about three years.

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[RickObie]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

Normally I would agree, but regarding today OP is right. On a day where the offense was firing on all cylinders we would've run away with this one. The pass protection was horrendous and the play calling and clock management might have been even worse. The defense made some great plays despite being on the field for what probably amounted to about three years.

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Why were they on defense for 3 years? Because they couldn’t get off the field - did they have a 3 and out?

[stevieray]

Originally Posted by SDChiefs

No. Our defense sucks. Our defense is good enough to win because mahomes, is not an excuse. Mahomes is putting up record numbers without wr1 and 2 now, and lt1 and gore saying it's not the defenses fault. Mahomes shouldn't have to carry the d.

The offense put up 13 points at home.

That's pathetic.

[Nickhead]

injuries all across the board are the biggest factor.

and the fact the chiefs backups are worse than indy's

[PunkinDrublic]

Originally Posted by Nickhead

injuries all across the board are the biggest factor.

and the fact the chiefs backups are worse than indy's

Indy’s injury situation isn’t as remotely similar to the Chiefs. Indy had a completely healthy o-line which was mentioned in the broadcast and they used it to run it down our throats and limit our opportunities.

[FloridaMan88]

The “don’t blame the defense because they only gave up 19 points” narrative is bullshit.

Playing bend and don’t break and giving up THREE 11 play drives and a 14 play drive plays right into the opposing team’s #1 goal which is to keep Mahomes on the sideline.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The “don’t blame the defense because they only gave up 19 points” narrative is bullshit.

Playing bend and don’t break and giving up THREE 11 play drives and a 14 play drive plays right into the opposing team’s #1 goal which is to keep Mahomes on the sideline.

Thank you, I'm glad to hear from someone who understands football strategy.

The Indianapolis Colts beat us the same way the Pats beat us and the way Detroit almost beat us - keep Mahomes off the field, bleed the clock.

It's not complicated, and easy to do with this defense.

[ChiefinNE]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

Thank you, I'm glad to hear from someone who understands football strategy.

The Indianapolis Colts beat us the same way the Pats beat us and the way Detroit almost beat us - keep Mahomes off the field, bleed the clock.

It's not complicated, and easy to do with this defense.

Ditto that. The D is the problem, period. Im having flashbacks of the no punt game.

[AussieChiefsFan]

Originally Posted by KCChiefsFan88

The “don’t blame the defense because they only gave up 19 points” narrative is bullshit.

Playing bend and don’t break and giving up THREE 11 play drives and a 14 play drive plays right into the opposing team’s #1 goal which is to keep Mahomes on the sideline.

Several injuries on the D line don't help with that. I see what you're saying but in the end we still only scored 10 points in the first half, even before Patty rolled his ankle (twice) and even before the TOP got all ****ed up. Not establishing the ground game really hurt us, and again, injuries on the O line don't help.

And what the hell was with calling three time-outs with 4 minutes left in the game when we were clearly going to give up another first.

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[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by AussieChiefsFan

And what the hell was with calling three time-outs with 4 minutes left in the game when we were clearly going to give up another first.

Full Reidtard

[rabblerouser]

The Colts held the ball for almost 40 minutes, and in the 2nd half alone had an 11 play 7 minute drive and a 14 play 9 minute drive, and the only pass they threw was called back for a penalty on a pick play...and you want to sit there and tell me that WASN'T the defense's fault?

Are you ****ing SERIOUS!?

WE HAD FOUR POSSESSIONS IN THE SECOND HALF.

THEY RAN 20 MORE PLAYS THAN WE DID.

THEY RAN THE BALL AT WILL.

11 PLAY, 7 MINUTE DRIVE.

14 PLAY, 9 MINUTE DRIVE.

THAT'S OVER A FULL QUARTER IN TWO DRIVES...AND THEY KEPT MAHOMES OFF THE FIELD FOR OVER A QUARTER OF THE GAME ON TWO DRIVES.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

[jerryaldini]

Originally Posted by rabblerouser

The Colts held the ball for almost 40 minutes, and in the 2nd half alone had an 11 play 7 minute drive and a 14 play 9 minute drive, and the only pass they threw was called back for a penalty on a pick play...and you want to sit there and tell me that WASN'T the defense's fault?

Are you ****ing SERIOUS!?

WE HAD FOUR POSSESSIONS IN THE SECOND HALF.

THEY RAN 20 MORE PLAYS THAN WE DID.

THEY RAN THE BALL AT WILL.

11 PLAY, 7 MINUTE DRIVE.

14 PLAY, 9 MINUTE DRIVE.

THAT'S OVER A FULL QUARTER IN TWO DRIVES...AND THEY KEPT MAHOMES OFF THE FIELD FOR OVER A QUARTER OF THE GAME ON TWO DRIVES.

THINK ABOUT THAT.

Nope, Indy scored only 6 points in the half with its run every down strategy. I'll take the chiefs every game to score more than 6 on 4 possessions. D held up its end. The greater concern on D would be pass rush and corner play. The pass game is where the impact lies. I hope more teams adopt this losing strategy. Easy math.

[rabblerouser]

Originally Posted by jerryaldini

Nope, Indy scored only 6 points in the half with its run every down strategy. I'll take the chiefs every game to score more than 6 on 4 possessions. D held up its end. The greater concern on D would be pass rush and corner play. The pass game is where the impact lies. I hope more teams adopt this losing strategy. Easy math.

So...did you actually watch the game? Because the Chiefs did not score more than 6 points on 4 possessions.

Carlos Hyde gets his revenge next week.