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Old 12-05-2022, 10:25 AM   Topic Starter
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Can’t wait to get Hardman and Toney back
The offense lead the NFL in scoring as of yesterday and the offense put us in position to get at least 27 points but Butker missed the kick.

That was with the great play by Reader to bat a Mahomes pass away from a wide open Kelce inside the 10 and Kelce fumbling. It was also with Juju missing most of the 2nd quarter.

We saw MVS getting open a handful of times against this team even though he was the only pure speed we had at WR. Getting these 2 back changes everything.

Hardman alone as a gadget player changes a lot. Toney is a supremely talented player and we’ve seen it. You can’t drop 8 against that bc their combined speed makes it harder to defend for extended plays.

You can have a TE in to help a tackle and shift Mahomes to that protection bc of that added speed. And we’ll get Toney back for returns.

We haven’t seen a game yet where we have all of our weapons healthy and I think it’s a massive advantage. It’s gonna let Andy have so much more flexibility in playcalling.

The offense will be as good as it was in years when we get them back
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:26 AM   #2
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:28 AM   #3
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we need hardman to drop 40 on people

no one else on the roster besides toney brings what he brings

without that speed element we go from elite to just very good
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:32 AM   #4
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Why wouldn't teams still be able to drop 8? Toney and Hardman being fast as **** doesn't change the fact that Brown and Wylie are susceptible to giving up immediate pressures. That's why the Bengals have such success with that look against us.
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:33 AM   #5
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Why wouldn't teams still be able to drop 8? Toney and Hardman being fast as **** doesn't change the fact that Brown and Wylie are susceptible to giving up immediate pressures. That's why the Bengals have such success with that look against us.
But it didn't work yesterday. We ran for 140 yards and moved the ball at will.

A fluke Kelce fumble and a missed FG.
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:35 AM   #6
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But it didn't work yesterday. We ran for 140 yards and moved the ball at will.

A fluke Kelce fumble and a missed FG.
This.

Anyone finding excuses on the offensive side is just... weird.

The offense was fine in an NFL game against a major rival in a playoff atmosphere.

Without a Kelce fumble the turnout could have easily been very different.


Our Dline not getting any pressure whatsoever is the problem with this team.
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:44 AM   #7
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But it didn't work yesterday. We ran for 140 yards and moved the ball at will.

A fluke Kelce fumble and a missed FG.
Mahomes held to his lowest yardage total on the year and only 1 TD. Yeah, not going to jump up and down in joy about 140 yards rushing when it means we're playing right into the Bengals game plan to shorten the game and limit the possessions each team has.
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Mahomes held to his lowest yardage total on the year and only 1 TD. Yeah, not going to jump up and down in joy about 140 yards rushing when it means we're playing right into the Bengals game plan to shorten the game and limit the possessions each team has.
Unless you're just gonna randomly find 2 new OT's right now, there isn't much you can do.
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Unless you're just gonna randomly find 2 new OT's right now, there isn't much you can do.
Yeah, unfortunately the weak play on the edges of both lines is probably going to be this teams downfall come January. I'd kind of expected Clark and Wylie to suck but Brown and Karlaftis being completely useless yesterday was a massive disappointment.
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Old 12-05-2022, 10:57 AM   #10
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Mahomes held to his lowest yardage total on the year and only 1 TD. Yeah, not going to jump up and down in joy about 140 yards rushing when it means we're playing right into the Bengals game plan to shorten the game and limit the possessions each team has.
I’m sure adding Hardman and Toney doesn’t change any of that considering Justin Watson, Jody Fortson and Skyy Moore (who I still really like) are taking those snaps.
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I’m sure adding Hardman and Toney doesn’t change any of that considering Justin Watson, Jody Fortson and Skyy Moore (who I still really like) are taking those snaps.
Good ****ing Lord, Toney managed 6 catches here before going right back to the injury list. Why y'all think he's going to be a massive difference maker is beyond me.
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Mahomes held to his lowest yardage total on the year and only 1 TD. Yeah, not going to jump up and down in joy about 140 yards rushing when it means we're playing right into the Bengals game plan to shorten the game and limit the possessions each team has.
If teams are gonna drop 8, keep running it at them.

Again, sure, it's gonna shorten the game, as long as they can get a turnover or get you to kick FGs. We did it against TB but we didn't turn it over and we nuked them.

Margins are slim against good teams. We had a ball batted down, they had one go full neo and the matrix thru 2 guys hands. We fumble and they pick it up, they throw a pick and get it negated because...well reasons.
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Why wouldn't teams still be able to drop 8? Toney and Hardman being fast as **** doesn't change the fact that Brown and Wylie are susceptible to giving up immediate pressures. That's why the Bengals have such success with that look against us.
We can do way more with the quick game and we had lots of success with misdirections and sweeps even with weapons not nearly as dynamic as these two. We were a totally different offense with Toney vs Tennessee, and I suspect we’ll see the same here. Mahomes can fight through it but with these guys we don’t have to ask him to nearly as much
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I wouldn’t expect much from Toney.
He's already had a big game with the Chiefs and he doesn't even know the playbook yet.
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