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Old 01-06-2025, 03:43 PM   Topic Starter
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My Unpopular Take on Wentz
…. Is that he was ****ed from the start yesterday. No one’s fault really. But hear me out.

At OL, he got three whole snaps from Creed, Thuney, and Trey respectively. Zero from Jawaan obviously.

At RB, he got zero from Hunt or Pacheco.

At WR, he got zero from Hopkins or Hollywood and one from Worthy.

That part is whatever, it was the right call by Reid and the staff. Where Wentz really got shafted is having to go against a good defense that had everything to play for in their house.

There was not a worse opponent to go up against yesterday based purely on circumstances. It’s not like Trubisky who got to face a Patriots team that woulda been happy to lose and pick #1. It’s not like had he played even the Raiders or Chargers yesterday; both teams who had already sealed their respective fates beyond Week 18.

He had to lead that offense against the most motivated defense of all 32 yesterday.

I just think the discussion should be contextualized a little. I’d be thrilled to have him back next year and unfortunately for him now, he may not have much of a choice. But all the finger pointing at him is pretty dumb, IMO. Especially when you factor in he drilled that elbow on a helmet during the first quarter.

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Old 01-06-2025, 03:47 PM   #2
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I actually totally agree. Really not fair to base much from him or Steele from yesterdays game.

But we did find out Nazeeh Johnson blows goats.
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Old 01-06-2025, 03:50 PM   #3
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Yeah I was mildly salty yesterday, but I'm over it

This wasn't the game to judge him by
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Old 01-06-2025, 03:50 PM   #4
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I'm not blaming any of the players. I'm just astonished at how shitty they appeared to look. (I missed the start of the game and the rout was on. I didn't really pay any attention to much detail because it didn't matter)
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Old 01-06-2025, 03:53 PM   #5
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I'm not blaming any of the players. I'm just astonished at how shitty they appeared to look. (I missed the start of the game and the rout was on. I didn't really pay any attention to much detail because it didn't matter)
The Chiefs were playing it like a third preseason game… back-ups playing in mixed matched line-ups with a 100% vanilla gameplan… against a team desperately trying to end a 10 year playoff drought.

Predictable result.
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Old 01-06-2025, 03:54 PM   #6
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Old 01-06-2025, 03:55 PM   #7
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Yeah, they threw him to the wolves, he never had a prayer. All that talk about Andy wanting to help him land a starting gig was clearly just nonsense, not that I think it would have helped. All it did was earn him a league minimum deal to hang out here for anther year.

I kind of feel bad for all the players who had to go out there and basically get their asses kicked with no scheming or game planning on either side. I know a lot of teams rest starters in these situations, but this was really another level. They just came out and literally laid down.
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Old 01-06-2025, 03:57 PM   #8
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No way to judge Wentz based on that game considering who we ran out there.
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Old 01-06-2025, 03:59 PM   #9
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Old 01-06-2025, 04:02 PM   #10
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…. Is that he was ****ed from the start yesterday. No one’s fault really. But hear me out.

At OL, he got three whole snaps from Creed, Thuney, and Trey respectively. Zero from Jawaan obviously.

At RB, he got zero from Hunt or Pacheco.

At WR, he got zero from Hopkins or Hollywood and one from Worthy.

That part is whatever, it was the right call by Reid and the staff. Where Wentz really got shafted is having to go against a good defense that had everything to play for in their house.

There was not a worse opponent to go up against yesterday based purely on circumstances. It’s not like Trubisky who got to face a Patriots team that woulda been happy to lose and pick #1. It’s not like had he played even the Raiders or Chargers yesterday; both teams who had already sealed their respective fates beyond Week 18.

He had to lead that offense against the most motivated defense of all 32 yesterday.

I just think the discussion should be contextualized a little. I’d be thrilled to have him back next year and unfortunately for him now, he may not have much of a choice. But all the finger pointing at him is pretty dumb, IMO. Especially when you factor in he drilled that elbow on a helmet during the first quarter.

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Find me the "meh, whatever" que. I was a little shocked some of his plays were so bad. He really short armed some throws where he had a clean pocket.

But I can't find a single **** to give.
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Old 01-06-2025, 04:16 PM   #11
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Find me the "meh, whatever" que. I was a little shocked some of his plays were so bad. He really short armed some throws where he had a clean pocket.

But I can't find a single **** to give.
This. And I think I have fewer ****s to give than you do.
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Old 01-06-2025, 04:18 PM   #12
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Find me the "meh, whatever" que. I was a little shocked some of his plays were so bad. He really short armed some throws where he had a clean pocket.

But I can't find a single **** to give.
Fair - I just would think some of the inaccuracies had to stem from that throw where he drilled his elbow on someone’s helmet.

For all we know that got a bit of nerve and threw everything off, no pun intended. He was nowhere near that inaccurate during preseason.
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Old 01-07-2025, 09:12 AM   #13
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Find me the "meh, whatever" que. I was a little shocked some of his plays were so bad. He really short armed some throws where he had a clean pocket.

But I can't find a single **** to give.
This.

The situation was terrible for him.

AND he played terrible. It wasn't just about him not being able to sit in a clean pocket and rip the ball every time. It was that there were instances when there WERE plays to be made and he just didn't put anything on the ball at all.

He looked more composed in the pocket than Oladokun but so would a labrador retriever. I wouldn't say he looked in command back there by any means.

No, he never had a chance to truly succeed but he DID have a chance to flash. He had a chance to show skills. He didn't.

That all said, I just don't give a shit.

"If 15 goes down, we're ****ed. And we don't practice ****ed"

That's all there is to it.
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My judgment was based on him hitting the target he was aiming for and the fact that he normally missed it. Even when there wasn't pressure. Did I expect him to look great, nope, did I expect him to look like a panicked rookie, no.
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Old 01-06-2025, 04:22 PM   #15
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My judgment was based on him hitting the target he was aiming for and the fact that he normally missed it. Even when there wasn't pressure. Did I expect him to look great, nope, did I expect him to look like a panicked rookie, no.
That was my only gripe as well... he badly missed many of the few guys that DID get open, but still he only had a week to practice with that cobbled together group and plain jane gameplan
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