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View Poll Results: If Pioli takes a QB in the late 1st or 2nd, my opinion of him would be...
I still hate him regardless 9 5.84%
It depends entirely on the QB taken 64 41.56%
I like him better because at least he gave it a shot at drafting a QB 73 47.40%
I only have eyes for Gaz 8 5.19%
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Old 02-07-2012, 01:09 AM  
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If this happens, your opinion of Pioli would be...
OK let's say Pioli is NOT convinced that Cassel is the only QB for us but can't work out a trade UP for RGIII or Luck. He looks at the free agents and decides they are stop gaps at best. SO...

He either trades way DOWN in the first round and picks a QB (slight reach) or he takes a QB in the second round.

Would that significantly change your opinion of Pioli?

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Old 02-07-2012, 09:42 AM   #46
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You said you would only agree with a trade down is if in addition to drafting a 2nd round QB the Chiefs brought in a veteran backup/starter to compete with Cassel.

No, although the way I constructed the sentence I see how you could read it that way. I would be happier trading down and not taking a QB at all.

In the OP it was a given that Pioli reaches in the 2nd or picks up a mid-round QB. That would not be my preference, but that was the given scenario. I could live with that scenario only if the Chiefs bring in a legitimate FA to compete for the starting job. Under no circumstances do I want to see Cassell competing against Stanzi and a middle round rookie for the starting job.
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Old 02-07-2012, 09:47 AM   #47
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:06 AM   #48
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:07 AM   #49
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My opinion of Osweiler is based solely on youtube clips, but IMO, the kid sucks. I can't fathom why anyone would spend a 4th round pick or earlier on the kid. First, why the hell did he declare? Second & Third - on youtube you can find every throw and run the kid made against USC and Boise. It's ugly. Not much pocket presence. Bad throws. The vast, vast majority of throws are screens and dump offs. I have no idea what people see in him.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:18 AM   #50
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Actually, I'd rather take Kellen Moore in the 4th-5th than any other QB in the 1st-2nd.

Luck > RG3 > Moore > Everyone else
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:18 AM   #51
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No, although the way I constructed the sentence I see how you could read it that way. I would be happier trading down and not taking a QB at all.

In the OP it was a given that Pioli reaches in the 2nd or picks up a mid-round QB. That would not be my preference, but that was the given scenario. I could live with that scenario only if the Chiefs bring in a legitimate FA to compete for the starting job. Under no circumstances do I want to see Cassell competing against Stanzi and a middle round rookie for the starting job.
No worries, you won't be seeing Cassel actually competing with ANYONE for the starting job.

This is all a token gesture to appease the fans.
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:31 AM   #52
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Actually, I'd rather take Kellen Moore in the 4th-5th than any other QB in the 1st-2nd.

Luck > RG3 > [Moore = Tyler Palko]
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Old 02-07-2012, 10:42 AM   #54
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Pioli making a move for RG3 would be admitting he made a 64 million dollar mistake in Matt Cassel. His ego will not allow him to do that. Pioli contends that Matt Cassel is the guy at QB, and if he actually believes that, theres no way he (in his mind) wastes a 1st rounder, or multiple first rounders + star talent to draft another quarterback.

If he does do that, then its an indictment that he's been full of shit about Matt Cassel the whole time.

Never happen. I dont honestly see Pioli drafting ANY quarterbacks this year. He has his guy in Cassel, and we drafted Stanzi last year.

He will either make at attempt to sign Kyle Orton as competition (roughly translated: 2nd string QB), or he will bring in some scrub free agent or an undrafted free agent QB to fill out the roster.


The only hope for the Chiefs franchise this year is that Scott Pioli keels over while horking down longjohns and bearclaws while fapping to Cassel's Pro Bowl jersey.
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It is amazing how many people think they know exactly what Pioli will do.
I know, right?

I keep trying to wrap my head around this idea that Pioli would rather lose his job in disgrace than to allow the team to move on from Cassell. That is not ego, that is idiocy. But it appears to be the Planet line currently so I guess we go with the flow.
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I know, right?

I keep trying to wrap my head around this idea that Pioli would rather lose his job in disgrace than to allow the team to move on from Cassell. That is not ego, that is idiocy. But it appears to be the Planet line currently so I guess we go with the flow.
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I know, right?

I keep trying to wrap my head around this idea that Pioli would rather lose his job in disgrace than to allow the team to move on from Cassell. That is not ego, that is idiocy. But it appears to be the Planet line currently so I guess we go with the flow.
It doesn't make much sense. Especially the "he is afraid to admit he was wrong so he'll keep playing Cassel" stuff. He wasn't afraid to fire Haley.
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