so Tony Romo cleared up $13M in cap space today ...

[Hootie]

(of course, like JJ Watt and Tom Brady, it means nothing, since they don't lose a single $ in the deal)

...

yet there are no articles on ESPN or Yahoo or anywhere talking about how great of a person this guy is!

GEE

WEIRD

!

[Hootie]

I'd love for someone to show me a playoff game Romo choked away that doesn't include a botched FG snap (cuz that's what starting QBs should be concentrating on...)

[RobBlake]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'd love for someone to show me a playoff game Romo choked away that doesn't include a botched FG snap (cuz that's what starting QBs should be concentrating on...)

translated to: don't use a huge moment that shows he choked one of the few playoff games he had a chance of winning

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by RobBlake

translated to: don't use a huge moment that shows he choked one of the few playoff games he had a chance of winning

Name another starting QB who doubled as placeholder ...

Eagerly awaiting

[tk13]

Originally Posted by tmw4h5

So, I'll be the jackass that asks a jackass question.
When players' contracts like this are converted to signing bonuses, how does the team get away with that? Couldn't a team just convert most of their high paid players to signing bonuses and in effect have endless money to use against the salary cap?

I'm sorry, I just really don't understand how the cap situation works with the NFL.

It isn't endless money. It'll all come back around the bend eventually. It saves them more money this year, but will make him cost more against the cap the rest of his contract.

Romo was already going to make (X) amount in signing bonus. His base salary this year would've been $17 million + that original signing bonus number. That's the total cap hit. (Base + bonus)

By converting $16M of that 17 to "signing bonus," they can spread it out evenly. His base salary is now only $1 million + original signing bonus + the $3.2 million of "new" signing bonus. (16M bonus over 5 years of contract = 3.2M/year).

The catch is... that will now be an extra 3.2 cap hit next year. And the next year. And the next year. So his cap number will actually be higher in future years. He still gets the $17 million he was already making, doesn't lose a dime. It just changes the way Dallas files the numbers.

[tk13]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'd love for someone to show me a playoff game Romo choked away that doesn't include a botched FG snap (cuz that's what starting QBs should be concentrating on...)

I agree he's not really the choker he's labeled as, but it's not like he's played legendary in the playoffs either.

And I think people bag on him not just for the playoffs... but all the times the Cowboys seem to be playing an elimination game in week 17 and they blew almost every single one of them. It's not all his fault, but it just comes with playing that position. There are still people here who will argue to the death that both Trent Green and Alex Smith failed the Chiefs in the playoffs even though their offenses lit it up.

[KC_Connection]

Tony Romo career regular season (123 games started): 65.2 CMP%, 5.7 TD%, 2.6 INT%, 7.08 ANY/A, 97.6 passer rating
Tom Brady career regular season (207 games started): 63.5 CMP%, 5.5 TD%, 2.0 INT%, 6.95 ANY/A, 95.9 passer rating
Peyton Manning career regular season (256 games started): 65.5 CMP%, 5.9 TD%, 2.6 INT%, 7.27 ANY/A, 97.5 passer rating

Tony Romo career postseason (6 games started): 61.6 CMP%, 4.3 TD%, 1.1 INT%, 5.87 ANY/A, 93.0 passer rating.
Tom Brady career postseason (29 games started): 62.9 CMP%, 4.9 TD%, 2.4 INT%, 6.10 ANY/A, 89.0 passer rating
Peyton Manning career postseason (24 games started): 64.0 CMP%, 4.1 TD%, 2.6 INT%, 6.48 ANY/A, 88.5 passer rating

Doesn't seem like Romo is faring too badly in either the regular season or the postseason, at least if you compare him to two of the greatest QBs of all time.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

Name another starting QB who doubled as placeholder ...

Eagerly awaiting

Russell Wilson.... oh, you meant the other definition of placeholder.

[GoChargers]

Originally Posted by Hootie 2.0

I'd love for someone to show me a playoff game Romo choked away that doesn't include a botched FG snap (cuz that's what starting QBs should be concentrating on...)

NFC Divisional vs. NY Giants (L 21-17) – The Cowboys were the #1 seed in the NFC and swept the Giants in the regular season. In the first half Romo led two 90+ yard touchdown drives. Dallas led 17-14 to start the fourth quarter. The Giants went ahead 21-17. On the next two drives, Romo was 3/9 for 50 yards, and sacked twice. On his last try, Romo had 1:50 and one timeout left, with the ball at the Giants’ 48. The drive only went 25 yards, and Romo’s last three passes were incomplete, including the interception in the end zone on 4th-and-1 from the Giants’ 23.

[TribalElder]

Aww I figured romo belchered himself

[Imon Yourside]

I once saw Tony rescue a kitten from a tree, what a great person yo.

[milkman]

Originally Posted by tk13

The most underrated QB in history is Kurt Warner. I don't think it's even close. Basically a HOF caliber QB that was so highly thought of he was bagging groceries and playing in the Arena League. Even with the lull in the middle, the guy led three teams to a Super Bowl.

Romo's a victim of his position. QB's are remembered what they did in big moments. And Romo is kind of the anti-Jeter. He's a great QB who just had some big gaffes at bad times. But that's the difference between being remembered like Tony Romo and being remembered like Joe Namath.

I still contend that Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated ever.

Sure, he was surrounded by outstanding talent, but those Steelers had to go through somr other outstanding teams, and Bradshaw consistently made big plays in big mome3nts, including outdueling Roger Staubaugh in the SB that still stands as the best ever.

[Hootie]

Originally Posted by GoChargers

NFC Divisional vs. NY Giants (L 21-17) – The Cowboys were the #1 seed in the NFC and swept the Giants in the regular season. In the first half Romo led two 90+ yard touchdown drives. Dallas led 17-14 to start the fourth quarter. The Giants went ahead 21-17. On the next two drives, Romo was 3/9 for 50 yards, and sacked twice. On his last try, Romo had 1:50 and one timeout left, with the ball at the Giants’ 48. The drive only went 25 yards, and Romo’s last three passes were incomplete, including the interception in the end zone on 4th-and-1 from the Giants’ 23.

Wow wow wow wow I was hoping someone brought up the PATRICK CRAYTON game here! This is epic! You fell right into my trap . I'll get into this game in 15 minutes

[Red Dawg]

AP will get there. Jerry will throw whatever the Vikes want in a trade.

[BigChiefFan]

He's so great to take a bonus.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by milkman

I still contend that Terry Bradshaw is the most underrated ever.

Sure, he was surrounded by outstanding talent, but those Steelers had to go through somr other outstanding teams, and Bradshaw consistently made big plays in big mome3nts, including outdueling Roger Staubaugh in the SB that still stands as the best ever.

Bart Starr.

The guy was putting up modern rate stats in the 60s when you could all but murder any offensive player. 90 passer ratings, 60+% completion percentages, 8+ YPA.

When you look at guys like Bradshaw and Lenny you have to really adjust for era before the numbers look even tolerable. Starr, OTOH, has numbers that would play all the way through the last decade and he did when cavemen ruled the earth.

Dipshit Clay would just call him a game manager.