Chiefs Would you trade the no. 1 pick for Cam Newton? - Page 60

HolyHat · 02:51 AM

We ran into this topic late Saturday night in another thread.

I personally don't like Cam at all. He's got a ton of talent, but is an absolute idiot. He can't even learn a full playbook. Newton has put up some big numbers, but they haven't translated into a lot of wins.

He is 13-19 as a starter over 2 years.

58.9% comp | 7,920 yards pass | 40 passing TDs | 29 INTS | 1,447 rush yards | 22 rushing TDs |

Would you give up our no. 1 pick for Cam Newton?

BigCatDaddy · 02-08-2016, 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

And I remember not too long ago when ppl said Kaepernick was headed for top five...

On he goes full BlackBob

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-08-2016, 02:56 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Russel Wilson had two good WRs and a HOF RB.

Cam has none of that.

RW had golden Tate. Kearse and Baldwin were undrafted and still hadnt developed... Deion even came out the next season and said the receivers were the weakest part of Seattle's offense in 2014

Cam had the #2 O line and three running backs that averaged >4 yards a carry. Olsen is one of the best tight ends after Gronk. Funchess is better than anything RW had after Tate

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-08-2016, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by BigCatDaddy

Both are young great ascending players. Using an Wilson as a comparison only validates how good you think Cam is. Id take either in a second.

You would take a head case who puts a target on his back when great coaches know how easy it is to rattle his cage and make him whimper?? That's interesting.

BigCatDaddy · 02-08-2016, 02:58 PM

BlackBob logic. "Big Ben sucks... just look at him compared to Brady"

BigCatDaddy · 02-08-2016, 03:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You would take a head case who puts a target on his back when great coaches know how easy it is to rattle his cage and make him whimper?? That's interesting.

You wouldnt take a 26 year old QB that took a steaming pile of BlackBob on offense to a 17-2 record and a SB game? I find that reeruned.

That elite o-line you kept talking up sure looked it last night.

Toby Waller · 02-08-2016, 03:03 PM

You saw as far as Cam is ever getting, last night. The nfc south will never have a consistent winner long term who keeps threatening for a SB. That was it.

mcaj22 · 02-08-2016, 03:04 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

RW had golden Tate. Kearse and Baldwin were undrafted and still hadnt developed... Deion even came out the next season and said the receivers were the weakest part of Seattle's offense in 2014

Cam had the #2 O line and three running backs that averaged >4 yards a carry. Olsen is one of the best tight ends after Gronk. Funchess is better than anything RW had after Tate

Doug Baldwin had 800 yards and 5 touchdowns the year they went to the Super Bowl

that's better than any Panthers WR this season.

All those shit WRs you think are good like Funchess and Philly Brown couldn't even catch 500 yards in a 16 game season with zero competition around them and the MVP of the league throwing them the football.

**Easy 6** · 02-08-2016, 03:06 PM

He still has some growing up to do, and yes I'd still trade for him

Major strides were made this year, and with good coaching more will be made next year

Kids a gamer, he simply wasnt ready for the biggest stage, had saucer eyes all night long

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-08-2016, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

Doug Baldwin had 800 yards and 5 touchdowns the year they went to the Super Bowl

that's better than any Panthers WR this season.

All those shit WRs you think are good like Funchess and Philly Brown couldn't even catch 500 yards in a 16 game season with zero competition around them and the MVP of the league throwing them the football.

You understand that Carolina is a run heavy team, right? And you understand that Olsen put up far more yards and TDs than Baldwin did, right? And you understand that Carolina offensive line is top five on most measures, right?

Good.

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-08-2016, 03:23 PM

Carolina won't get home field advantage next season as their strength of schedule goes up a notch

**The Franchise** · 02-08-2016, 03:23 PM

His offensive line sure looked like a top 5 unit last night....

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-08-2016, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Pestilence

His offensive line sure looked like a top 5 unit last night....

Smart quarterbacks know what they're up against and don't hold onto the football asking to be stripped for multiple fumbles in a game

mcaj22 · 02-08-2016, 03:37 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You understand that Carolina is a run heavy team, right? And you understand that Olsen put up far more yards and TDs than Baldwin did, right? And you understand that Carolina offensive line is top five on most measures, right?

Good.

you understand Olsen is not a WR right? That Seattle was also a run heavy team right?

TigeRRUppeRRcut · 02-08-2016, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by mcaj22

you understand Olsen is not a WR right? That Seattle was also a run heavy team right?

If you run pass the LOS and accumulate yards then by definition, you are an eligible receiver. So if you are going to come in here and argue Cam had no one to throw to then you are making no case.

Cam has Olsen, Wilson had Luke Wilson.
Cam has Ginn, Wilson had Golden Tate

**New World Order** · 02-08-2016, 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by TigerUppercut

You understand that Carolina is a run heavy team, right? And you understand that Olsen put up far more yards and TDs than Baldwin did, right? And you understand that Carolina offensive line is top five on most measures, right?

Good.

Pass/Rushing attempts per game are the same for Carolina.

And so what, Cam is a dual-threat quarterback that will contribute to the running game.

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