Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell

[RunKC]

Rand Gettlin-I'm told the #Chiefs have released defensive back KeiVarae Russell. Special teams numbers game. Super talented player. Likely to be claimed.

WOW

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Mike Mitchell?

Not sure it was this quick, but it's possible.

And he's gone on to an average career elsewhere, IIRC.

That may have been who I was thinking but he played 3 years there so it clearly wasn't him.

Tyler Wilson was the 4th round QB they drafted/cut before camp ended, IIRC.

Yeah, I just don't see the rush to cut the kid unless he's just an asshole, but for ****'s sake they have Tyreke Hill on this squad. I'm sorry, I don't care how humble you are - you don't get to make 'character cuts' when you carry that piece of garbage on your roster.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Didn't the Raiders do it with a safety a few years ago?

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Mike Mitchell?

Not sure it was this quick, but it's possible.

And he's gone on to an average career elsewhere, IIRC.

Ok, so if you're referencing Mitchell...

He played for Oakland for 4 years, before signing as a FA with the Panthers. Currently plays for Pittsburgh making $5M per.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That may have been who I was thinking but he played 3 years there so it clearly wasn't him.

Tyler Wilson was the 4th round QB they drafted/cut before camp ended, IIRC.

Yeah, I just don't see the rush to cut the kid unless he's just an asshole, but for ****'s sake they have Tyreke Hill on this squad. I'm sorry, I don't care how humble you are - you don't get to make 'character cuts' when you carry that piece of garbage on your roster.

EXACTLY.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

That may have been who I was thinking but he played 3 years there so it clearly wasn't him.

Tyler Wilson was the 4th round QB they drafted/cut before camp ended, IIRC.

Yeah, I just don't see the rush to cut the kid unless he's just an asshole, but for ****'s sake they have Tyreke Hill on this squad. I'm sorry, I don't care how humble you are - you don't get to make 'character cuts' when you carry that piece of garbage on your roster.

That's because it's not a "character cut". It's a "culture cut". They don't feel like Russell fits the culture. Was that a mistake in judgement by Dorsey and our scouts? Yea, but let's stop comparing those two guys' situations, because it's apples and oranges.

[DaFace]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Were any of those players cut in Week 1 of their rookie seasons, or were they given a shot and then cut?

Thanks for taking my call, I'll hang up and listen.

I'm not sure why letting them hang around for a few unproductive years makes it any better. If you're sure the guy isn't going to work out, what's the point in stunting the development of other guys?

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, I just don't see the rush to cut the kid unless he's just an asshole, but for ****'s sake they have Tyreke Hill on this squad. I'm sorry, I don't care how humble you are - you don't get to make 'character cuts' when you carry that piece of garbage on your roster.

Dorsey stuck with Sanders Commings for three years and Tyler Bray for four years.

The Chiefs stuck with DAT after his bizarre exit from the team last season and they've kept Knile Davis, despite the fact that he's lobbied for a trade.

They also drafted Tyreek Hill, which to this day, is still somewhat surprising.

This leads me to believe that Russell was a gigantic Douche Rocket that had no redeeming value, despite the fact he has the physical talent to play the position.

[OnTheWarpath15]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That's because it's not a "character cut". It's a "culture cut". They don't feel like Russell fits the culture. Was that a mistake in judgement by Dorsey and our scouts? Yea, but let's stop comparing those two guys' situations, because it's apples and oranges.

Personally, I think "mouthy and arrogant" is pretty much a perfect fit for this team, especially the defense.

But please, I'd love to know how "pregnant woman beater" fits ANY culture.

Good Christ, you're starting to make those Alex Smith fanboi 49ers trolls look intelligent.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by staylor26

That's because it's not a "character cut". It's a "culture cut". They don't feel like Russell fits the culture. Was that a mistake in judgement by Dorsey and our scouts? Yea, but let's stop comparing those two guys' situation, because it's apples and oranges.

It's an NFL lockerroom. "Culture Cut" because the dude is cocky? Jesus, they're ALL cocky and they damn well should be. They're pretty much the most physically gifted human beings on the ****ing planet. They've spent years flat out being better than everyone they've played against.

And if your 'team leaders' are drumming the guy out for being froggy, that's a failure of existing team leadership. Then again, I'm not sure how he could've rubbed ol' Eric Berry: Super Leader the wrong way when the ****ing guy couldn't be bothered to show up. Damn shame he wasn't around to talk our rookie down a bit, eh?

If 'leadership' on this team is so sensitive that they feel compelled to complain to management about a rookie's attitude, they should probably go take a look at the trophy case again and check their own goddamn egos. None of these guys have a ring. None of them have a patent on how to conduct yourself.

If the cut him for 'culture' reasons it had better be because they caught him doing lines of coke of Alex Smith's wife's ass. Merely being cocky (when you have Marcus ****ing Peters for crying out loud) isn't grounds to cut a guy loose.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

...or the guy just really really sucks to go along with the poor attitude. Humble him.

[DaneMcCloud]

Originally Posted by Pasta Giant Meatball

...or the guy just really really sucks to go along with the poor attitude. Humble him.

There's no doubt he sucked in preseason

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Personally, I think "mouthy and arrogant" is pretty much a perfect fit for this team, especially the defense.

But please, I'd love to know how "pregnant woman beater" fits ANY culture.

Good Christ, you're starting to make those Alex Smith fanboi 49ers trolls look intelligent.

I'm not arguing about Hill's character concerns, I understand where you're coming from if you say that there are bigger character concerns with Hill than Russell. That's not what I'm saying, so don't put words in my mouth. Hill doesn't have anything to do with this. Bringing him up is just more butthurt bullshit IMO.

What I'm saying is, they obviously don't feel that Russell was a fit with this team and in particular that DB room. They felt so strongly about it they cut him despite being a 3rd round pick.

Does that mean they have to turn around and cut Hill, who's done everything right since being drafted, or something? I don't understand the need to compare the two.

[DaFace]

I guess I'm just surprised at all the white knighting for a guy who was pretty much indistinguishable from an UDFA during preseason. It'd be one thing if he looked great, but he looked like a JAG to me.

[DJ's left nut]

Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dorsey stuck with Sanders Commings for three years and Tyler Bray for four years.

The Chiefs stuck with DAT after his bizarre exit from the team last season and they've kept Knile Davis, despite the fact that he's lobbied for a trade.

They also drafted Tyreek Hill, which to this day, is still somewhat surprising.

This leads me to believe that Russell was a gigantic Douche Rocket that had no redeeming value, despite the fact he has the physical talent to play the position.

And it makes me worry that they're getting a little too caught up in their own press clippings.

When you start to think you have all the answers, that's when you start to make decisions like this. This organization hasn't proven to have all the answers just yet.

I refuse to believe that this kid just hid the fact that he was a Keyshawn Johnson level jackass for the entire draft process only to unleash his inner prick on an unsuspecting locker room. It doesn't pass the sniff test. I just think he was your standard froggy kid. Add that with some entitlement from 'vested' leaders and arrogance from management that's not shown itself to be immune to mistakes and you have the recipe for a decision made for the wrong reasons.

It may work out. Hell, it probably will work out - 3rd rounders are lottery tickets and MOST bust. But I don't care for the process here at all.

[staylor26]

Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

It's an NFL lockerroom. "Culture Cut" because the dude is cocky? Jesus, they're ALL cocky and they damn well should be. They're pretty much the most physically gifted human beings on the ****ing planet. They've spent years flat out being better than everyone they've played against.

And if your 'team leaders' are drumming the guy out for being froggy, that's a failure of existing team leadership. Then again, I'm not sure how he could've rubbed ol' Eric Berry: Super Leader the wrong way when the ****ing guy couldn't be bothered to show up. Damn shame he wasn't around to talk our rookie down a bit, eh?

If 'leadership' on this team is so sensitive that they feel compelled to complain to management about a rookie's attitude, they should probably go take a look at the trophy case again and check their own goddamn egos. None of these guys have a ring. None of them have a patent on how to conduct yourself.

If the cut him for 'culture' reasons it had better be because they caught him doing lines of coke of Alex Smith's wife's ass. Merely being cocky (when you have Marcus ****ing Peters for crying out loud) isn't grounds to cut a guy loose.

Oh I get this, now you're joining in on the butthurt because you were originally so unhappy about the trade downs and Hill. That's fine, but I'm just going to call it like it is.

[Pasta Little Brioni]

Wouldn't be the first guy that only looked good against future insurance salesmen. At this point he's not goid enough for an NFL team.