Chiefs Chiefs release KeiVarae Russell

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 04:30 PM

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Originally Posted by DJ's left nut

Yeah, I just don't see the rush to cut the kid unless he's just an asshole, but for ****'s sake they have Tyreke Hill on this squad. I'm sorry, I don't care how humble you are - you don't get to make 'character cuts' when you carry that piece of garbage on your roster.

Dorsey stuck with Sanders Commings for three years and Tyler Bray for four years.

The Chiefs stuck with DAT after his bizarre exit from the team last season and they've kept Knile Davis, despite the fact that he's lobbied for a trade.

They also drafted Tyreek Hill, which to this day, is still somewhat surprising.

This leads me to believe that Russell was a gigantic Douche Rocket that had no redeeming value, despite the fact he has the physical talent to play the position.

DJ's left nut · 09-14-2016, 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

Dorsey stuck with Sanders Commings for three years and Tyler Bray for four years.

The Chiefs stuck with DAT after his bizarre exit from the team last season and they've kept Knile Davis, despite the fact that he's lobbied for a trade.

They also drafted Tyreek Hill, which to this day, is still somewhat surprising.

This leads me to believe that Russell was a gigantic Douche Rocket that had no redeeming value, despite the fact he has the physical talent to play the position.

And it makes me worry that they're getting a little too caught up in their own press clippings.

When you start to think you have all the answers, that's when you start to make decisions like this. This organization hasn't proven to have all the answers just yet.

I refuse to believe that this kid just hid the fact that he was a Keyshawn Johnson level jackass for the entire draft process only to unleash his inner prick on an unsuspecting locker room. It doesn't pass the sniff test. I just think he was your standard froggy kid. Add that with some entitlement from 'vested' leaders and arrogance from management that's not shown itself to be immune to mistakes and you have the recipe for a decision made for the wrong reasons.

It may work out. Hell, it probably will work out - 3rd rounders are lottery tickets and MOST bust. But I don't care for the process here at all.

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-14-2016, 04:41 PM

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And it makes me worry that they're getting a little too caught up in their own press clippings.

When you start to think you have all the answers, that's when you start to make decisions like this. This organization hasn't proven to have all the answers just yet.

I refuse to believe that this kid just hid the fact that he was a Keyshawn Johnson level jackass for the entire draft process only to unleash his inner prick on an unsuspecting locker room. It doesn't pass the sniff test. I just think he was your standard froggy kid. Add that with some entitlement from 'vested' leaders and arrogance from management that's not shown itself to be immune to mistakes and you have the recipe for a decision made for the wrong reasons.

It may work out. Hell, it probably will work out - 3rd rounders are lottery tickets and MOST bust. But I don't care for the process here at all.

Again, spot on.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by OnTheWarpath58

Again, spot on.

It's only spot on if he's right.

If Russell is gigantic, uncoachable asshole, then the Chiefs made the right decision.

Time will tell.

Regardless, he never earned a roster spot, IMO.

O.city · 09-14-2016, 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by DaneMcCloud

It's only spot on if he's right.

If Russell is gigantic, uncoachable asshole, then the Chiefs made the right decision.

Time will tell.

Regardless, he never earned a roster spot, IMO.

True

But if that's the case, why the hell would you draft him early?

**OnTheWarpath15** · 09-14-2016, 04:49 PM

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True

But if that's the case, why the hell would you draft him early?

EXACTLY.

As DJ said, this kid didn't just hide being an asshole during the draft process, just to spring it on the locker room come camp.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 06:49 PM

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True

But if that's the case, why the hell would you draft him early?

Because the Notre Dame coaching staff isn't one to shit on their players.

Hell, for all we know, Brian Kelly didn't want him back for his Senior season.

NJChiefsFan · 09-14-2016, 07:35 PM

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I'm not sure why letting them hang around for a few unproductive years makes it any better. If you're sure the guy isn't going to work out, what's the point in stunting the development of other guys?

That's the fascinating question here. What could have made them so clear that nothing was going to change, improve, or progress with time. Can't be his play. You don't pick a guy in the 3rd round, be that excited about it, and cut him even if he looked like Cliff Clavin out there. Insane to go from loving his talent to we are confident his talent won't progress.

Even with the locker room issues, Reid is pretty confident in controlling guys and the locker room has leaders. What could possibly have happened, or continued to happen, that they just said "you're donezo." This second part seems more likely, but it's really intriguing to wonder what it could have been.

RunKC · 09-14-2016, 08:32 PM

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Because the Notre Dame coaching staff isn't one to shit on their players.

Hell, for all we know, Brian Kelly didn't want him back for his Senior season.

Dorsey has been doing this for decades and I highly doubt he got swindled. A player drafted that high being cut so soon is not a good thing. It's not horrible, especially if White steps up, but it is a bad look for any GM to do this.

if this happened to the Broncos or Raiders, we'd all be laughing at them calling them morons.

DJ's left nut · 09-14-2016, 04:47 PM

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It's only spot on if he's right.

If Russell is gigantic, uncoachable asshole, then the Chiefs made the right decision.

Time will tell.

Regardless, he never earned a roster spot, IMO.

There has never been a bigger jackass than Aqib Talib, a guy that was cut from multiple rosters for being a gigantic, uncoachable asshole. He adds being a drunk pothead to the mix.

He's also been a hell of a football player and in the end, production wins out.

Guys will put up with ANYTHING if you produce. And no, Russell didn't produce but they also cut him before he got a chance to prove that he could.

Give him a year as an inactive (or even on the damn IR) and maybe he learns some valuable lessons there. But hey, I'd like to again chalk one up to Eric Berry's supreme leadership skills. If a guy wants to get paid for his intangibles, you'd like to think he could at least convince a 3rd rounder to not talk his way off the team.

**DaFace** · 09-14-2016, 04:49 PM

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There has never been a bigger jackass than Aqib Talib, a guy that was cut from multiple rosters for being a gigantic, uncoachable asshole. He adds being a drunk pothead to the mix.

He's also been a hell of a football player and in the end, production wins out.

Guys will put up with ANYTHING if you produce. And no, Russell didn't produce but they also cut him before he got a chance to prove that he could.

Give him a year as an inactive (or even on the damn IR) and maybe he learns some valuable lessons there. But hey, I'd like to again chalk one up to Eric Berry's supreme leadership skills. If a guy wants to get paid for his intangibles, you'd like to think he could at least convince a 3rd rounder to not talk his way off the team.

I can't even begin to describe how pissed I would be if they brought Talib onto this team. So apparently we just have different perspectives.

DJ's left nut · 09-15-2016, 08:42 AM

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I can't even begin to describe how pissed I would be if they brought Talib onto this team. So apparently we just have different perspectives.

Likewise, but that's not the point I'm making.

It has nothing to do with fan perception, it's teammates/staff. Teams put up with his shit because he produces. I don't want him on this team, but if he were acquired and played well, 'team leaders' wouldn't be looking to run him out of town regardless of how big a jackass he is.

Because football players put up with a whole slew of dipshittery. Hell, they've all played for 10 years and there's no better fountain of dipshittery than football coaches, regardless of level. Christ alive, the amount of horseshit you'll hear out of your average football coach is just laughable.

They develop pretty thick skin. That is, unless they start thinking they're above having to deal with it.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-14-2016, 04:41 PM

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But I don't care for the process here at all.

If it turns out to be something petty, then I'd agree but it's very difficult to make any kind of determination at this point because we, the fans, don't have any facts.

If it turns out it was something serious with the coaching staff, especially a HOFer like Emmitt Thomas, then releasing him is acceptable.

If the guy isn't claimed or claimed but released again, the indication would be that he's the problem, not the process or the Chiefs.

Again, it's too early but Reid surely sounded like a man ready to move on.