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Star Wars: Andor

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Old 05-14-2025, 08:06 PM   #436
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Just finished the season finale and I'm putting it top 10 finales of all time, maybe top 5.


Benjamin Bratt is my Bail Organa now and forever, screw LA Law.


Ignoring the force for 24 episodes just to deliver his final May The Force Be With You.

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If anybody feels like watching something with the same kind of vibe after this, I’d recommend Gilroy’s movie Michael Clayton that is excellently crafted. Similar slow-burn thriller. I’ve always thought it was his best work (at least until Andor came around).
That movie rules and was the only signifier he was capable of something like this
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Oh yeah, I agree on Bratt.

I just see Jimmy Smits, not Bail Organa

If you want to flesh out this time period, give us THE ORGANAS.
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Old 05-14-2025, 08:27 PM   #438
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Old 05-14-2025, 08:35 PM   #439
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Unfortunately we'll probably get the adventures of Cassian Andor, Jr and for some reason he has the Force and it will probably be animated and terrible.
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Old 05-14-2025, 09:31 PM   #441
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I don't know if it is true but I read that they inversed the Vader breathing for that moment, I mean like, sonically
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Old 05-14-2025, 09:53 PM   #442
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Disney better learn their lesson this time.

No more woke crap. You have the blueprint.
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Old 05-14-2025, 10:33 PM   #444
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Complaining about woke isn't the problem. You should be complaining about compelling stories and not phoning in production costs because Disney is antiquated and very siloed which is kind of an industry term.

I say this as a person working at a studio five minutes down the road. Like, Moana 2 was a direct to video production that they pushed to a theatrical release.

The thing is, it made money even though it ultimately disappointed. "Woke" isn't the reason Disney films are infuriating. They're bad. That's that problem.

That said it's very across the board politically that nobody likes stunt casting for the sake of doing it, even the subsects of the groups represented hate it. I've been to the research meetings. It might be the most unanimous, cross-party, cross-gender, cross-orientation issue out there.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/victoriavou...y-in-hollywood

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"We're mistaking [diversification] for we have to include a person from every single race, and every single background, and every single part of the human experience in every show or everything that we make," he said. "That's not reality, and it's not authentic. I never grew up with a group of friends where there was someone who represented every ethnic group in my group of friends. I don't know who the hell grew up like that."

He's right. It's inauthentic.
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Yeah, the problem with the Acolyte wasn’t that it was woke, it was that it was complete garbage.
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Yeah, the problem with the Acolyte wasn’t that it was woke, it was that it was complete garbage.
It was both.
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Not to get too far into it Clay but the term WOKE is pretty naive and doesn't really show a true understanding of the issues. You should probably retire it if you're going to try and have an actual conversation about the state of things outside of DC.

I'm not trying to convince you to change your beliefs but at least be a little more...descriptive. It's a catch-all clickbait term that doesn't say anything but a general I hate stuff attitude.
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Nope. I know it when I see it.

You actually explained it well in your post. The term describes your post.
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The Acolyte sucked because it was poorly written and directed, and therefore poorly acted.

The showrunner and director was in way over her head, and it showed. They also skimped on production.

Andor was excellent because the writing, directing, and therefore acting were excellent. They didn’t skimp on production, either, and therefore writing was good enough to get around what they did have to skimp on (the KY-SO origin episode was too expensive to make, so they went another route).

It stinks because there were some interesting concepts at play in The Acolyte (introducing Darth Plagueis, a birth from a vergence in the Force, Jedi as lawful good paladins who therefore have blind spots, the process of a Sith apprentice in the Rule of Two recruiting an acolyte).

The problem was the way it was executed.
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The Acolyte sucked because it was poorly written and directed, and therefore poorly acted.

The showrunner and director was in way over her head, and it showed. They also skimped on production.

Andor was excellent because the writing, directing, and therefore acting were excellent. They didn’t skimp on production, either, and therefore writing was good enough to get around what they did have to skimp on (the KY-SO origin episode was too expensive to make, so they went another route).

It stinks because there were some interesting concepts at play in The Acolyte (introducing Darth Plagueis, a birth from a vergence in the Force, Jedi as lawful good paladins who therefore have blind spots, the process of a Sith apprentice in the Rule of Two recruiting an acolyte).

The problem was the way it was executed.
That often happens when you're way too focused on DEI.
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