A Question for all that want DE with 1st pick - Page 4

Kclee · 12-23-2004, 11:14 AM

I must be missing something and need enlightenment. I think Allen starts and Holliday will be gone. And didn't we just sign Hicks? The coaches love him. Believe me, I would love to draft stud DE first, but do you think they will bench Hicks? Or even bench Allen, who will most likely break DT's sack record? I guess I just don't see the coaches doing that. But alot of people are thinking DE, so enlighten me please.

Coogs · 12-23-2004, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Chiefnj

IMO, right after the bowl games is the best time to settle on a player. After that time too much emphasis is put on combine numbers and inflated workout numbers and fake numbers being thrown about.

No doubt!

htismaqe · 12-23-2004, 02:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Coogs

So if an Ed Reed type is available when we pick, you would prefer we passed?

NO

As far as I'm concerned, NO position on defense should be exempt...

Coogs · 12-23-2004, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by htismaqe

NO

As far as I'm concerned, NO position on defense should be exempt...

My toughts exactly. Except for maybe a DT. I might frown a bit if we select another DT early.

htismaqe · 12-23-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Radar Chief

You guys are gonna shit bricks when we take an Offensive Left Tackle with the first pick.

Not me.

Depending on what we do in free agency, it might not be a bad idea at all.

**Saulbadguy** · 12-23-2004, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by el borracho

I don't really know what that means. Is there some adjustment I can make on my computer to shrink your sig? Right now it is excessively wide.

Check the resolution you are running at. Right click on your desktop, properties, settings.

Spicy McHaggis · 12-23-2004, 03:11 PM

Luckily for the Chiefs we have so many needs taking the best defensive player on the board at the time isn't a bad idea. The FO should definately be open to the possibility of trading up though. Hopefully somewhere in the bevy of picks that we have Carl will stumble upon another Jared Allen. Defensive Rookie of the Year IMO.

ChiefsCountry · 12-23-2004, 03:27 PM

I think our draft needs are as followed:
DE
WR
OT

Draft is for future, helping out right away is a bonus. Our OL is getting old at tackle. OL would be a good choice. I think we get a MLB and #1 CB and Nickelback in free agency, our defense will be fine with a lineup of:
DE Allen
DT Sims
DT Dalton
DE Hicks
LB Fujitia
LB FA
LB Barber
CB FA
CB Warfield
SS Wesley
FS Woods

tk13 · 12-23-2004, 03:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Check the resolution you are running at. Right click on your desktop, properties, settings.

Yeah, that's it, instead of shrinking your signature you want to make everybody change their resolution. Jerk.

Kclee · 12-23-2004, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by tk13

Yeah, that's it, instead of shrinking your signature you want to make everybody change their resolution. Jerk.

Well, he is Saulbadguy.

Cannibal · 12-23-2004, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by HC_Chief

RDE is where they want us to go. Replace Hicks with a more aggressive pass-rusher.

Heck, we could have done that THIS year... instead of resigning Hicks we could have kept Truluck.

ITA.

We need to draft a stud pass rusher and then try to sign a decent FA corner and draft a LB in 2nd. (If there any good pass rushers at our spot in the draft.)

Drafting a corner would be a bad idea IMO. I don't care how good they are in college, they will struggle at this level for a year or two at least. After next year the window slams shut.

12-23-2004, 04:03 PM

Pollack or Erasumus from wisconsin ?

The Boston College guys stock may be moving up.

Cannibal · 12-23-2004, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by warpaint99

Pollack or Erasumus from wisconsin ?

The Boston College guys stock may be moving up.

Do you think any of them are capable of 10 sacks in their rookie year?

**Saulbadguy** · 12-23-2004, 04:08 PM

Why should we draft another pass rusher? We already have one, IMO. I don't want a rookie on one end, and a 2nd year veteran on the other.

Cannibal · 12-23-2004, 04:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Saulbadguy

Why should we draft another pass rusher? We already have one, IMO. I don't want a rookie on one end, and a 2nd year veteran on the other.

Because it is one of the positions in which a rookie (if he is talented) can step right in and contribute immediately, which is what we need. Plus, if you can generate a very good pass rush from both end positions, it allows you blitz less often which allows you to cover the field better, which makes you a better D.

**Saulbadguy** · 12-23-2004, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannibal

Because it the one of the positions in which a rookie (if he is talented) can step right in and contribute immediately, which is what we need. Plus, if you can genate a very good pass rush from both end positions, it allows you blitz less often which allows you to cover the field better, which makes you a better D.

True, but so can a LB or CB. We have a "pass rushing DE" in Jared Allen. I believe having him will open up more opportunties for our DT's and the other DE to get more pressure on the QB. Hell, its already happening. The last few games i've been watching, our D-Line is performing fairly well, and they are getting pressure.

Our LB's however..when they are sent on a blitz, they don't do shit. They get caught up behind our D-line, or just get blocked out. Our LB's totally suck.

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