So The NFL Network Is Doggin Johnson

philfree · 04-29-2005, 12:13 AM

Like some of the others. The same BS that he can't take on the blocks...blah..blah..blah. He's so quick and fast that most blockers can't get to him. What's he supposed to do tackle the blocker 1st and then tackle the RB to prove himself. What a bunch of Dumb Fugs. Who was the last two time All American LB, Butkus Award winning LB and...damn what's the other guys name who has an award? The best LB to come down the pike in a long time and he's being dissed

He's gonna make'm all eat turf

I've never used this phrase before, but what a bunch of "FugTards"..........Gawwd!

PhilFree

ChiefsCountry · 04-29-2005, 12:19 AM

Remember this Ray Lewis lasted till like the 20 something pick too and he proved alot people wrong hopefully DJ does too.

**Dunit35** · 04-29-2005, 12:24 AM

Noone knows nothin untill he steps on that field...

beer bacon · 04-29-2005, 12:28 AM

I hardly ever watch any of this crap so can someone answer this question for me. When they are talking about him not being able to take on blocks do they show video as examples? All the video I have seen him either has him fighting through blocks to make lots of tackles or shooting gaps perfectly with his football sense/speed to slam into the ball carrier at full speed.

I could understand the bad tackling complaint, because sometimes it looks like he goes for the big hit instead of wrapping up, but I haven't seen any video of him getting manhandled by a blocker or anything. On the contrary I have seen videos of him fighting off blocks to make tackles. Of course I know the videos I have seen are just limited glimpses. That is why I am wondering if they are showing video examples when they dog him.

I would also like to point out that if New England or another one of the darlings of the NFL had some how managed to nab DJ the collective sports media would be in a line 10 miles long to suck him off.

melbar · 04-29-2005, 12:29 AM

Does Ray Lewis Run strait to the first big lineman he sees and start to tango? NO , you blow past them and nail the ball carrier.

philfree · 04-29-2005, 12:34 AM

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Originally Posted by ChiefsCountry

Remember this Ray Lewis lasted till like the 20 something pick too and he proved alot people wrong hopefully DJ does too.

He will but it still chaps my ass when the Chiefs and their players get over looked by the idiots. It's an odd year and we're coming so they should

and get out of the way or they'll get run down with the rest of those who get in our way. I can't believe that after 15 years of Carl they don't have the odd yer thing figured out. What a bunch of blind MoFos

Their in depth analysis consists of looking back to week 14 of the previous season........Should I go On? Well hell yes I should! The Vikes are so much better without Moss and the Raiders are so much better with Moss and the Donks are so it because they drafted a quitter who nobody else would have even signed to a UDFA contract. And those teams going 3-4 are so loaded up with the tweeners that they can't miss

.............GAwwd!

PhilFree

beer bacon · 04-29-2005, 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by melbar

Does Ray Lewis Run strait to the first big lineman he sees and start to tango? NO , you blow past them and nail the ball carrier.

Ray Lewis gets his ass handed to him by Brian Waters and then cries about it on camera.

philfree · 04-29-2005, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by beer bacon

I hardly ever watch any of this crap so can someone answer this question for me. When they are talking about him not being able to take on blocks do they show video as examples? All the video I have seen him either has him fighting through blocks to make lots of tackles or shooting gaps perfectly with his football sense/speed to slam into the ball carrier at full speed.

I could understand the bad tackling complaint, because sometimes it looks like he goes for the big hit instead of wrapping up, but I haven't seen any video of him getting manhandled by a blocker or anything. On the contrary I have seen videos of him fighting off blocks to make tackles. Of course I know the videos I have seen are just limited glimpses. That is why I am wondering if they are showing video examples when they dog him.

I would also like to point out that if New England or another one of the darlings of the NFL had some how managed to nab DJ the collective sports media would be in a line 10 miles long to suck him off.

Oh hell they'll show one clip of DJ getting blocked and say "look he got blocked!" Never mind his hundreds of tackles and many turnovers he's responsible for "he got blocked!" FugTards!

PhilFree

**Rausch** · 04-29-2005, 12:44 AM

I have to admit, I'm starting to stale on the NFL network. I hope Rich gets struck by lightning...

Megbert · 04-29-2005, 12:51 AM

So I guess since the national media has shown me he gets blocked then that's what I believe. After all ESPN, NFL Network and so on being media outlets wouldn't be biased would they. >>Cough - Cough<<

Say the Chiefs are 5-5 the 'journalist' will say 'well they're a long shot to make it to the playoffs' tho if it were say the cowboys and they were 2-8 they'd say "Well if the 'boys can sweep the rest of the season they finish 8 - 8 and have a great chance at making the playoffs"

Not at all bitter about the national media.

philfree · 04-29-2005, 12:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Rausch

I have to admit, I'm starting to stale on the NFL network. I hope Rich gets struck by lightning...

They're just like all the other sports news outlets in that they have their bias and they ain't ashamed to show it. That's alright though cause the Chiefs are comin on strong in 2005 and by the time they jump on the wagon we'll be front runners.

PhilFre

Wallcrawler · 04-29-2005, 12:55 AM

Mike Mayock is teh ghey.

I cant stand listening to Mayock going on and on and on about how Johnson doesnt take on blockers and wont be a good linebacker in the NFL. What is worse, he shows ONE highlight over and over and over of a 207 pound back getting a good shot on Derrick Johnson on a running play and knocking him off balance, and pegs him as "unable to play at the point of attack" because of that one play.

If he were showing multiple highlights of that happening, against different players in different situations I might think more of his view. But since he started this shit, its been that ONE highlight over and over. The rest of the highlight reel is Johnson knocking 7 shades of shit out of any ball carrier he gets close to.

Ive seen great defenders get punked by some of the shittiest wide receivers on the field. That doesnt mean that the defender cant play, it just means he had one bad play in particular.

You dont get the type of career Johnson had at Texas and win all those awards if you have a huge flaw in your game like that. Many people have the view that Derrick Johnson was the best linebacker in the draft, even possibly the best defensive player in the draft. Mayock is taking this one highlight and trying to verbally ruin Johnson before he ever plays a down in the NFL.

Could he get better at shedding blocks? Yeah. Show me a linebacker who couldnt get better at that, especially a rookie. But I refuse to believe that this one thing that Mayock and guys just like him nitpick to death is going to keep him from becoming an impact player in this league.

DJ had the best combine numbers for a linebacker in a long time, according to those who were covering it on NFL Network, and oddly enough, Mayock himself was there at the combine, giving DJ props on his drills. WTF is that about? He excelled at every single drill, showing very little weakness in anything. They said he was a complete player, capable of doing anything that a defensive coordinator could ask of him. Now Mayock is on this kick that Johnson cant play at the point of attack.

This is a guy that was expected to go top 10, with detroit being the best bet to select him. And had they taken him instead of the Chiefs, we would probably be hearing all sorts of Johnson praise.

But since he slid to the Chiefs at 15, I guess that makes it open season to take a giant shit on him if youre a douchebag like Mike Mayock.

I would suggest to Mike Mayock to set the crack pipe down, and slowly back away. When you have speed like what Derrick Johnson has, and the ability to use that speed to the best of your ability (Bronco Nagurski award, Dick Butkus Award, enter next award name here....etc...), YOU DONT HAVE TO F AROUND WITH THE BLOCKERS. There are several big name linebackers whose effectiveness are drasticly reduced should an NFL caliber offensive lineman get a block on him. (See Ray Lewis, Monday nighter vs KC, or Brian Urlacher) These guys have to be protected somewhat from the blockers to be effective, but there's no knock on these guys for that.

There was a lot of negative shit being spewed at Derrick Thomas too when he was drafted, and look how he turned out. He will be in the Hall of Fame soon, and should have been there already had it not been for the ineptness of Bob Gretz.

Johnson is a linebacker who can do anything that is asked of him. Run support, pass rush, coverage, and has a knack for forcing fumbles. Who wouldnt want a guy like this on their team?

Spicy McHaggis · 04-29-2005, 12:55 AM

People said the same crap about Vilma who I was drooling over last year. "Too easy to block, doesn't shed, lacks ideal size." We know how bad all that held Vilma back in his rookie campaign.

Oregon chief · 04-29-2005, 01:15 AM

i wonder what they all said about jarred allen last year before they saw him play

Oregon chief · 04-29-2005, 01:15 AM

media can not judge talent worth a crap.

04-29-2005, 12:13 AM
philfree Indian Twitter Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Free Agency Casino cash: $1186198	So The NFL Network Is Doggin Johnson Like some of the others. The same BS that he can't take on the blocks...blah..blah..blah. He's so quick and fast that most blockers can't get to him. What's he supposed to do tackle the blocker 1st and then tackle the RB to prove himself. What a bunch of Dumb Fugs. Who was the last two time All American LB, Butkus Award winning LB and...damn what's the other guys name who has an award? The best LB to come down the pike in a long time and he's being dissed He's gonna make'm all eat turf I've never used this phrase before, but what a bunch of "FugTards"..........Gawwd! PhilFree
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beer bacon WHAT Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Kansas City, MO Casino cash: $10019545	I hardly ever watch any of this crap so can someone answer this question for me. When they are talking about him not being able to take on blocks do they show video as examples? All the video I have seen him either has him fighting through blocks to make lots of tackles or shooting gaps perfectly with his football sense/speed to slam into the ball carrier at full speed. I could understand the bad tackling complaint, because sometimes it looks like he goes for the big hit instead of wrapping up, but I haven't seen any video of him getting manhandled by a blocker or anything. On the contrary I have seen videos of him fighting off blocks to make tackles. Of course I know the videos I have seen are just limited glimpses. That is why I am wondering if they are showing video examples when they dog him. I would also like to point out that if New England or another one of the darlings of the NFL had some how managed to nab DJ the collective sports media would be in a line 10 miles long to suck him off. Last edited by beer bacon; 04-29-2005 at 12:35 AM..
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Megbert New and shiny. Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: KC KS Casino cash: $9270260	So I guess since the national media has shown me he gets blocked then that's what I believe. After all ESPN, NFL Network and so on being media outlets wouldn't be biased would they. >>Cough - Cough<< Say the Chiefs are 5-5 the 'journalist' will say 'well they're a long shot to make it to the playoffs' tho if it were say the cowboys and they were 2-8 they'd say "Well if the 'boys can sweep the rest of the season they finish 8 - 8 and have a great chance at making the playoffs" Not at all bitter about the national media.
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04-29-2005, 12:55 AM	#12
Wallcrawler How tall is this thing? Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Ground 0 for enema of US. Casino cash: $4162912	Mike Mayock is teh ghey. I cant stand listening to Mayock going on and on and on about how Johnson doesnt take on blockers and wont be a good linebacker in the NFL. What is worse, he shows ONE highlight over and over and over of a 207 pound back getting a good shot on Derrick Johnson on a running play and knocking him off balance, and pegs him as "unable to play at the point of attack" because of that one play. If he were showing multiple highlights of that happening, against different players in different situations I might think more of his view. But since he started this shit, its been that ONE highlight over and over. The rest of the highlight reel is Johnson knocking 7 shades of shit out of any ball carrier he gets close to. Ive seen great defenders get punked by some of the shittiest wide receivers on the field. That doesnt mean that the defender cant play, it just means he had one bad play in particular. You dont get the type of career Johnson had at Texas and win all those awards if you have a huge flaw in your game like that. Many people have the view that Derrick Johnson was the best linebacker in the draft, even possibly the best defensive player in the draft. Mayock is taking this one highlight and trying to verbally ruin Johnson before he ever plays a down in the NFL. Could he get better at shedding blocks? Yeah. Show me a linebacker who couldnt get better at that, especially a rookie. But I refuse to believe that this one thing that Mayock and guys just like him nitpick to death is going to keep him from becoming an impact player in this league. DJ had the best combine numbers for a linebacker in a long time, according to those who were covering it on NFL Network, and oddly enough, Mayock himself was there at the combine, giving DJ props on his drills. WTF is that about? He excelled at every single drill, showing very little weakness in anything. They said he was a complete player, capable of doing anything that a defensive coordinator could ask of him. Now Mayock is on this kick that Johnson cant play at the point of attack. This is a guy that was expected to go top 10, with detroit being the best bet to select him. And had they taken him instead of the Chiefs, we would probably be hearing all sorts of Johnson praise. But since he slid to the Chiefs at 15, I guess that makes it open season to take a giant shit on him if youre a douchebag like Mike Mayock. I would suggest to Mike Mayock to set the crack pipe down, and slowly back away. When you have speed like what Derrick Johnson has, and the ability to use that speed to the best of your ability (Bronco Nagurski award, Dick Butkus Award, enter next award name here....etc...), YOU DONT HAVE TO F AROUND WITH THE BLOCKERS. There are several big name linebackers whose effectiveness are drasticly reduced should an NFL caliber offensive lineman get a block on him. (See Ray Lewis, Monday nighter vs KC, or Brian Urlacher) These guys have to be protected somewhat from the blockers to be effective, but there's no knock on these guys for that. There was a lot of negative shit being spewed at Derrick Thomas too when he was drafted, and look how he turned out. He will be in the Hall of Fame soon, and should have been there already had it not been for the ineptness of Bob Gretz. Johnson is a linebacker who can do anything that is asked of him. Run support, pass rush, coverage, and has a knack for forcing fumbles. Who wouldnt want a guy like this on their team? __________________ She did not open her eyes this morning. I don't know what else to say.
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Spicy McHaggis Keep 'er Movin' Join Date: Sep 2004 Casino cash: $9905359	People said the same crap about Vilma who I was drooling over last year. "Too easy to block, doesn't shed, lacks ideal size." We know how bad all that held Vilma back in his rookie campaign. __________________ “We want players who are big, strong, smart, fast, tough and disciplined,” Pioli said, finally bringing an end to the era of Chiefs executives who searched desperately for players who are small, weak, stupid, slow, fragile and unruly.
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04-29-2005, 01:15 AM	#14
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