Chiefs Pioli and Herms Tampa 2 - Page 2

Reerun_KC · 01-16-2009, 10:21 AM

Blah Blah Blah with the Patsification of the Chiefs.. What we should be asking is can Pioli get the right players for the Tampa 2 and Bucsification?

We are in dire need of some LB's, safties and a push from the DL, will Herm and Pioli be able to find those guys and get this defense out of the cellar?

We need at least 2 safeties, 2 LB's and two soild down linemen this off season to make a difference with this defense... Yes I know that is alot to ask for, but we need help and badly...

RippedmyFlesh · 01-16-2009, 11:35 AM

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Originally Posted by beach tribe

You won't be getting a safety like Ed Reed in rnds 3-5.

Exactly,if you want the next Reed you have to take 1st safety picked in round 1 and hope.

BigChiefFan · 01-16-2009, 11:38 AM

Taylor Mays is staying in school.

smittysbar · 01-16-2009, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefzilla1501

But he did run a 3-4 in New York with Cottrell. Herm is not an X's and O's coach and he probably relies on his defensive coordinator to run whatever defense he wants anyway.

The Tampa 2 actually does work in the NFL, but you need a lot of creativity behind it. And I'm not convinced anyone has that creativity except Monte Kiffin. So I agree that they need to move away from the Cover 2.

I know a 3-4 will lesser utilize Dorsey's talents, but I still think that's a direction we should move toward.

So you think it was Gunther that wanted to run the Tampa 2?

BigChiefFan · 01-16-2009, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by chiefscafan

safety rashard Johnson from Alabama he is a playmaker much like ED Reed. We could get hi m between rounds 3-5.

I had him in my mock draft as a 4th rounder, because we will be picking so high in each round. I also think he's a stud and would be a value pick in the 4th round.

talastan · 01-16-2009, 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Blah Blah Blah with the Patsification of the Chiefs.. What we should be asking is can Pioli get the right players for the Tampa 2 and Bucsification?

We are in dire need of some LB's, safties and a push from the DL, will Herm and Pioli be able to find those guys and get this defense out of the cellar?

We need at least 2 safeties, 2 LB's and two soild down linemen this off season to make a difference with this defense... Yes I know that is alot to ask for, but we need help and badly...

Stating the possiblity of Herm returning? Who are you and how did you hack Reerun's login?!

BigChiefFan · 01-16-2009, 12:11 PM

We don't even have the right players to run the cover two and the system is flawed, why on Earth would we continue on the road to ruin? Ain't happening-Herm's as good as gone.

**MahiMike** · 01-16-2009, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by Reerun_KC

Because he is the HC and that is his defense of preference...

Cart...

Horse...

Kerberos · 01-16-2009, 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by KCFalcon59

We're so bad on D right now it would be the perfect time to scrap the cover 2. And that means get rid of Herm!

What? You don't like the Cover "WHO" defense?

Reerun_KC · 01-16-2009, 12:45 PM

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Originally Posted by talastan

Stating the possiblity of Herm returning? Who are you and how did you hack Reerun's login?!

Just saying that as a Chiefs fan since the mid 80's, I am used to failure from this franchise, therefore I would expect anything promising anytime soon..

blueballs · 01-16-2009, 12:47 PM

Reerun has sworn off sex
until Herm is fired

Reerun_KC · 01-16-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blueballs

Reerun has sworn off sex
until Herm is fired

He better hurry up and get fired, I picked up a bottle of wine today for Mrs Reerun_KC....

We are going to have some US time tonight.....

Chris Meck · 01-16-2009, 01:48 PM

I'm no huge fan of the cover 2, but I really don't understand the fascination with the 3-4. A lot of people seem to think it's some magic bullet.

We don't really have ANY players suited to it. Like none.

Ok, MAYBE McBride.

talastan · 01-16-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'm no huge fan of the cover 2, but I really don't understand the fascination with the 3-4. A lot of people seem to think it's some magic bullet.

We don't really have ANY players suited to it. Like none.

Ok, MAYBE McBride.

I agree, I think that we stick with the 4-3 and use a more blitz heavy scheme like the Giants or Eagles IMO. Attack the QB and use more man-to-man coverage. Our DB's are talented enough and with a good pass rush I think this would be the best option given the players we have currently on our roster and who will be available in the draft and FA.

RustShack · 01-16-2009, 02:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Chris Meck

I'm no huge fan of the cover 2, but I really don't understand the fascination with the 3-4. A lot of people seem to think it's some magic bullet.

We don't really have ANY players suited to it. Like none.

Ok, MAYBE McBride.

McBride, Boone, Babin, DJ, Flowers, Carr, Page, Pollard would all fit. We have a few backup LB's that fit the 3-4 better than they do the 4-3. Tank and Dorsey MIGHT be able to play 3-4 DE, but they would be better DT's in the 4-3. We will also likely start signing players who fit the 3-4 more and also draft them since we will likely be running it within the next couple years...

RustShack · 01-16-2009, 02:12 PM

We need a lot of new players on defense no matter what system we run anyways.

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