Chiefs Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future - Page 8

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 04:15 PM

Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality.

I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them.

Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a sh*tty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around.

Seriously, it shouldn't take a ****n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for **** sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself.

I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this ****n sh*t!! When Herm was here, they signed these ****n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping.

Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, **** off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is ****n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sh*t they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be.

You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sh*t. There is no excuse for this bullsh*t that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap.

I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I think they saw that as a start. I don't think Pioli expected we'd win 8 games this year. He all but said we weren't going to win much. I'm not defending all of their moves, but I think their expectations were fairly realistic.

You can't put a team on the field that looks like it doesn't belong like yesterday, in today's league even bad teams should be able to compete.

**SAUTO** · 09-28-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I think they saw that as a start. I don't think Pioli expected we'd win 8 games this year. He all but said we weren't going to win much. I'm not defending all of their moves, but I think their expectations were fairly realistic.

he basically let us all know that it would be a fairly lengthy process in his press conference when he was hired.

IIRC he said that the process would take some time and ownership acknowledged that fact and they would get the time needed to get it right.

The next time someone says the thought they would win 8 games that transcript should be thrown out

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

it's not really 30???? where have you been? we have 30 new players on the roster. so yeah it's 30

Are you happy to know that for the most part they just replaced turds with turds so it's still a turd?

'Hamas' Jenkins · 09-28-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by kysirsoze

I think they saw that as a start. I don't think Pioli expected we'd win 8 games this year. He all but said we weren't going to win much. I'm not defending all of their moves, but I think their expectations were fairly realistic.

Their free agent activity suggests otherwise.

**SAUTO** · 09-28-2009, 07:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

Are you happy to know that for the most part they just replaced turds with turds so it's still a turd?

no matter what you think of the players the fact remains that they turned over 30 guys from the roster

kcfanXIII · 09-28-2009, 07:07 PM

don't get me wrong, it sucks there is hardly any talent, and they're really no better than last year, but at least the ship has a direction instead of turning endlessly in circles.

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 07:07 PM

Turning it over to turn it over isn't a success, would you rather have 5 guys who can do their jobs or 30 who can't?

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

you want instant results, you need to move along. instant is never as good as when you do it the right way. while FA is important, i have no problem with them not bringing in any overpriced under producing players. going into year 3 after a couple of drafts thats when you sign some free agents, to get you over the hump. besides, we were more than a few FA signings away from anything. i don't care if they go 3-13 or 8-8. its the same record to me, because both will send you home in january. sorry dude, you have to give this some time to clean up the crap that was on this roster. your stance on this is just plain dumb, and unrealistic.

Im sorry. the Chiefs way isn't the right way. They're not gaining anything when they replace McIntosh with Ndukwe. Neither when they decide to resign Niswanger. Or sign Mike Goff when he clearly is done and coming off an injury. This is the Chiefs way of building the offensive line?

Im looking for improvement. This isn't improvement. i want progress to see this team get better and head in the right direction. how do you get better? By going out and getting better players then you have now.

im not saying they have to be an 11-5 team today?If you're gonna do it "right" rebuild the offensive line correctly so that way you put your QB in a position to succeed. Why spend all this money on your QB, and trade for him when he has zero protection. ZERO. Does that sound dumb?

**SAUTO** · 09-28-2009, 07:08 PM

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Originally Posted by 'Hamas' Jenkins

Their free agent activity suggests otherwise.

i think that had to do with having guys who would be accountable for the play on the field. And having guys that have actually won some nfl games.

Vrabel showed yesterday that he will get on people. Did you see him when a penalty took away that sack? Do you notice the way he gets on guys in the huddle?

Mecca · 09-28-2009, 07:08 PM

We used a draft pick to trade for a guy that was getting cut to replace McIntosh when he might be even worse...

How does that make any sense?

**SAUTO** · 09-28-2009, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mecca

We used a draft pick to trade for a guy that was getting cut to replace McIntosh when he might be even worse...

How does that make any sense?

what draft pick did they use?

kcpasco · 09-28-2009, 07:10 PM

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Originally Posted by JASONSAUTO

i think that had to do with having guys who would be accountable for the play on the field. And having guys that have actually won some nfl games.

Vrabel showed yesterday that he will get on people. Did you see him when a penalty took away that sack? Do you notice the way he gets on guys in the huddle?

I see a guy who can't believe he went from the Patriots to this pile of crap.

RedThat · 09-28-2009, 07:10 PM

I used to think at least give the Chiefs credit they tried to get players. But now I don't think that way. When you replace scrub with scrub I don't credit that as trying.

**The Bad Guy** · 09-28-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RedThat

I used to think at least give the Chiefs credit they tried to get players. But now I don't think that way. When you replace scrub with scrub I don't credit that as trying.

Translation: We didn't sign a bunch of free agents to satisfy my hope for 8-8.

**DaneMcCloud** · 09-28-2009, 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by kcfanXIII

ya, thats what they were thinking when they cut or traded 30 guys...

god you people are dumb.

5 guys were released from the practice squad and five guys were cut from IR.

That makes twenty. Of those twenty, five are on other NFL Rosters: Johnston, McBride, Pollard, Babin and Gonzalez.

09-28-2009, 04:15 PM
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	Expect to be disappointed because there will be no talent on this team in the future Im no psychic, and neither do I have a crystal ball in front of me to predict the future. I make my statements clearly based in relation to how this dismal franchise operates. I hate to sound doom and gloom but it is leading towards that because of our football reality. I don't care if we hired Scott Pioli and hired a coach from the Parcell's tree. This means absolutely nothing. when you really get down to the main core of things, these guys will have no value on this franchise because they ain't the main guys behind the curtain. They're not in full control of football operations, they're not ultimately responsible for calling the shots nor pay the bills. They're just puppets obeying what their master wants from them. Seriously though, when you get down to it we have a shtty owner. Yeah Scott Pioli is who the fans wanted and Clark satisfied our desire in that regard. He comes from New England therefore we should all be excited because he comes from a winner and knows how to put championship teams together right? Im not gonna buy into this. If you really payed close attention the operations around 1 Arrowhead drive haven't changed. The Chiefs are still the same old Chiefs. They operate in the same manner and fashion just like when Herm and Carl were here. Just different men this time around. Seriously, it shouldn't take a *n rocket scientist to figure this out. We're being deceived into thinking this team is gonna turn it around and build a winner. we tune in and watch the games every Sunday, and why do we cheer? Because we want good things to happen. We want to win for sakes. That's why every fan watches sports and if you for one minute think that you can dodge your way around that, you're only fooling yourself. I honestly believe these guys are no different then salesmen trying to sell themselves to make you convinced why you should buy their product. Seriously, Im tired of this *n sht!! When Herm was here, they signed these **n castoffs from other teams, and as fans were lead into believing that what they were doing was right. How many times do you recall Herm say the best teams on paper don't win? As a result, they went out and signed trash...It is evident when you see them sign guys like Alphonso Boone, Damion McIntosh, an old Donnie Edwards, Adrian Jones...And these guys are players other teams didn't even consider keeping. Then, this time around, new regime, BUT, now were being told the team with the best players don't win. you have to have the "RIGHT" 53 players?! Well, off! This is clearly a ploy. Its a total cover up for an owner who is *n cheap and doesn't wish to spend the money. What's gonna be the excuse? Clark isn't spending the money because he is devoting it towards stadium renovations. Gimme a break. If we take a close look at the off-season we signed 2nd and 3rd tier players who aren't gonna make a difference or impact your team in any sort of way. And it's the same sht they sign "old" guys or injury riddled players who clearly aren't what they used to be. You can't take other teams scraps and expect to build a good team? That is my point. The saying is true, you can't make chicken salad out of chicken sht. There is no excuse for this bullsht that is going on. None. They've clearly had opportunties to upgrade the talent on the roster and what did they do? They were there usual passive selves. They waited waited and signed scraps, while the good talent was there they didn't cash in on those opportunities. No excuses when you're 30 someodd million under the cap. I think it's important to "read between the lines". Pioli or no Pioli, Peterson or no Peterson the fact is Chief fans are getting ripped off. And I anticipate they will not win any time soon nor in the future. the reason is simple, the operations haven't changed at all. you have no talent, can you win? Absolutely not. And it's a shame because the fans of Kansas City love their football, while Clark doesn't relate to your passion nor has any regards towards it whatsoever.
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09-28-2009, 07:07 PM	#111
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09-28-2009, 07:08 PM	#115
Mecca Hockey Town Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Kansas City, Missouri Casino cash: $-612950	We used a draft pick to trade for a guy that was getting cut to replace McIntosh when he might be even worse... How does that make any sense?
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09-28-2009, 07:10 PM	#118
RedThat Banned Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Earth Casino cash: $10004900	I used to think at least give the Chiefs credit they tried to get players. But now I don't think that way. When you replace scrub with scrub I don't credit that as trying.
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